johnsch322

We should definitely know more in 3 days.

I read notice of depositions including the one from the BSA to the TCC and I agree with his assessment. Personally I am looking forward to the official vote count and I hope the offer was rejected.

From Tim Kosnoff Twitter Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys · 29m Happy New Year Friends and Followers. I have great news to share. Judging by the flurry of deposition notices filed by BSA last night to depose most of the firms urging clients to Reject and seeking evidence of the impact of the “Kosnoff Communications” on the vote,THEY LOST BIG 3 1 5 Kosnoff Law @SexAbuseAttys · 29m Now BSA wants to invalidate your REJECT votes

One I never wrote that You or those you knew (as far as you know) may not have been abused but many were (including myself) and I also was of those who fought to keep this country free you put yourself in that light with your posts There are rules and no alcohol would be one In summation if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem

Why would you mock those who are trying to follow the rules of the BSA and or other organizations? How could that even be remotely scout like? The BSA has had and may still have a huge problem with Child Sexual Abuse and there are those within the organization who want more stringent controls and have the will to enforce them. Why do you appear not to be one of those?

What do you mean by targeted?

Comparing the long term effects of sexual abuse to anguish over alcohol dependency/abuse and then saying there is a balance with good memories gives me distinct opinion that you have no idea about the long term effects of Child Sexual Abuse. Unless you yourself are a survivor please stop trying to deflect from what you post. What you posted and the subsequent posts were a trigger to at least one survivor and maybe multiple others. As far as your suspicions I wouldn’t doubt that those who are abusers have a tendency to have alcoholic and or drug abuse issues themselves. As far as for the ASM that brought the alcohol to the BSA campout I wonder what his intentions were? It was two ASM’s who brought alcohol and pornography plus who knows what else to a campout and raped myself. I hoped someone looked further into his background to see what else he may have done.

Obviously, you did read exactly what I wrote. Instead of a condemnation of an ASM who brought alcohol I read light banter about the brand and the ASM needed a better mentor to choose a better brand. You chose to make the leap. There is a poster on these forums who is a survivor (not myself but I am, and alcohol was used in my abuse) who read the original post and the subsequent posts. As a result of reading them he has suffered mental anguish because it relived his memory and caused him concern that the same situations may be occurring.

The usage of alcohol by abusers to entice victims for sexual pleasure/perversion was one of the most common methods used When I read follow on posts that came after this where only the merits of the brand and other brands are discussed but not one condemnation I wonder if this practice of taking alcohol on campouts by adults still occur.

Now that the voting is done and most of the lawyers probably have a fairly good idea how the vote stands and if it looks like it will be rejected there will be a few of them losing sleep. If the confirmation turns into a cram down the $3500 opt out may go entirely away. Especially the law firms who did very little vetting of their clients and were expecting to get at least $1400 per client. At best the opt out will be around $500. Lawyers take on that will be around $200 and even if you had 1,000 clients that is only $200,000 which may not be enough to pay back their loans. Think of the firm with 100 clients who all voted yes I bet they have more than 20,000 invested.

Honestly @ThenNowposts are coherent, maybe at times sarcastic and witty but much needed. I see nothing unscoutlike form him.

From my observations on the way the voting is a total screw up, the BSA choosing the coalition and their less than scrupulous methods of dealing with their clients and the good chance that BSA will not be able to get a confirmation in their favor I hope someone at BSA asks the question: Did all those millions of dollars we spent over the past couple of years just go up in smoke?

And who knows but this bankruptcy could just go "up in smoke".

My thoughts exactly. How can not one of 100 vote differently. I also would like to know if this was a coalition lawyer.

We shall see in due time.

I do not believe it will overwhelmingly pass and would not be surprised if it gets less than a 50% yes vote.

I haven’t watched the video but I did read the transcript. It gives a very telling behind the scenes look at the coalition. It is no wonder why TK wanted to be deposed. It is a story that needed to be told.

What kind of comment is that t0 a Merry Christmas post to an individual? would like to see how you react to "Good will towards all men"?

Merry Christmas to you @ThenNow!! You give with all of your wit and insights all year long.

I doubt that there was many survivors “who learned to live with their demons” in a type of life that you have lived. Also for every survivor who the sick feeling that may have come more awake there are more survivors who as result of this bankruptcy have sought out help and have been able to bond with others. I am not sure where you are in life but for many of us we finally feel empowered against the system that abused us.

I have been reading statements from survivors that they are now getting calls from coalition lawyers telling them that they filled out their ballots incorrectly and need to vote again. These claimants are saying that they know they voted correctly and they all say they voted no. The coalition lawyers are urging them to revote thru the coaltions e-ballot. Other survivors are urging them to contact the court. Reviewing the votes is going to be a mess.

“Oh, the red button there kid. Don’t ever, ever touch the red button”

The bigger question would be why was he allowed into the BSA to start with?

Tina Turner is warming up her vocals ”out of the ruins out from the wreckage can’t make the same mistake this time we are the children the last generation we are the ones they left behind”

So what happens if they do not reach the 100 million goal?