mrjohns2

It was clear that in the past, common sense and proper discretion were not in abundance. One has to draw the line somewhere. So, in your friend situation, what if she turns 18 the day before the trip, etc. Making clear cut rules are better than "well, you decide" since people already push the edges of the current rules.

My perspective says all do, at least in my section. Maybe I don’t have a good national view.

I assume it is to track bad publicity, but in reading the files it was very clear policy to collect and add any and all newspaper clippings. So, if a council turned in a report without them, I can see national wanting to know why.

In all of the documentation shared, this is not one of them. Not in the flow chart, not in the letters, or webpage. I don't think this is an option.

It seems as though, one of the options has been taken off of the table. It seems clear that congregations cannot continue to be CO's, no?

What portion of the $33 and $146 are the national fee? Your council popcorn and FOS have stayed steady even though membership is down significantly?

I’ve read about 50 IV files from the LA newspaper (?) website. They include a decent amount of correspondence between the local council and regional/ nations bsa. None say to destroy records. Most / all say to “forward on” any additional information.

They have to pay salaries somehow. How are your council FOS and popcorn efforts? How else do they raise money?

It is. It is hard for parents who don’t know the program to know if it is worth the investment. That is why the $25 fee hurts. Since the main fee is prorated, I see why they have the $25. But unlike sports, many families don’t know what they are getting into and have to take a risk. Now the cost for that risk continues to grow.

Should? Can’t right now since it is UMC specific.

What a bureaucratic nightmare. This is a UMC specific Facilities Use Agreement and not the standard BSA one. Too bad they could negotiate updating the standard one that came out a couple of years ago.

@Tron It is great to hear someone who knows how the role works. Many confuse it for the SM's role in advancement.

What new exception? What is the exact wording from the pamphlet?

That is something really easy to answer. It is your council who carries the liability insurance for the unit no matter the underlying CO. Just ask your DE for a copy naming the building owner as a named party. It is very easy and they do it all the time.

Hasn’t it only been public for a week or 2?

Very normal for my 2 years of SM. I would never sleep the first night. I was wide awake.

He may be too old, but I’d vote for Jocko Willink. Author, navy seal, etc.

Sorry, it was in the updated faq released with the most recent update…

The updated current guide to safe scouting makes it clear she cannot tag along with a boy troop. So, I can see why the SE is saying they can’t support this Scout as a lone scout. It seems like it is enabling a co-ed unit.

I think some of those ideas are where someone at national thinks up an idea, pays someone to create a webpage, and sits back thinking they made a big improvement. I wonder how many actually do “BSA Adopt a School”.

I am trying to help, but I see an empty stool where Tiny Tim once sat. The election policies removes the striving that scouts used to feel. Now, it seems like a foregone conclusion.

It will help if you remember where you met, that is, the particular school or church or whatever.

Are outdoor skills in the vision, mission, oath, or law of Scouts?

This is one of the few policies our units have, so that families know up front, and the committees can just follow the policy. For us, the Scout account moves to the new unit if the new unit has scout accounts. If not, they are kept with the unit for camperships. There is no national or council policy since scout accounts are a grey area.

I haven't seen the numbers in a year or 2, but this isn't what I recall. Have you seen recent number, or better yet, monthly numbers for the last 5 years?