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About shingobeek

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    Eagle Scout, Vigil Honor member, Bear

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  1. shingobeek

    Lot's of questions

    See, that's my point - adults putting up barriers. When the "well intentioned" scouter says to the youth "it's great you know how to tie a square knot now, let's see if you can do it next week (or next month...) too!" That is a barrier. Scouting is supposed to be fun. On a secondary note - and this really gets to the point - BSA requirements are not that difficult for young adults. Too often adults may feel that scouts are moving too fast, and set up barriers, i.e. making them wait. This can have deleterious effects on youth. Regardless of one's opinion, the world we live in today moves fast. No amount of longing for yesteryear is going to change society. Young people today have been conditioned to expect things in a rapid fashion, we adults are too. This is not about teaching patience, this is adapting to the changing culture. I'm a teacher. No matter how much I want students to go to the library to do research, I know it's not going to happen, and nor should I expect it. It's ridiculous to expect this when young people today can do the same, if not more, research from the comfort of their own home. I, the educator, have to ask, what skill am I assessing, the knowledge gained from the research, or the act of researching itself? Are we asking a scout to tie a knot, or tie a knot 2 months from now? We cannot ask a young man in his Eagle Board to tie a sheepshank, or map out a trail to his school, because he's already done that. Why are we insistent on doing the same for the new scouts?
  2. shingobeek

    "Pencil Whipping" Requirements

    I agree - my point is that advancement can occur rapidly. As a teacher in a junior high setting I have seen far too many boys leave the program because "it's boring." These youth leave a troop that is very active -weekly meetings, monthly camping trips, and usually another activity. These boys leave because they aren't advancing. How a 14 y.o. that is active in a unit is still a tenderfoot or 2nd class is beyond me.
  3. shingobeek

    "Pencil Whipping" Requirements

    Why? The scouts in question could complete requirement 6a & 6b at one troop meeting, complete the other requirements on a campout, and then 6c at the final troop meeting of the month. We should be in the business of keeping youth active and interested!
  4. shingobeek

    Lot's of questions

    So I've been following this forum for a while now, and there seems to be an issue that comes up frequently. "Scouts advancing too quickly" Usually the topic starts like this..."My son's Scoutmaster refused to sign off on the requirement...." or "The new leadership of the unit is pushing through advancement too quickly..." I've been involved with the program for quite a while, not as long as others, but still it's been 30 years since I became an Eagle, and I think this qualifies me as having been around. So here's what I don't understand, and never have. The BSA creates a series of requirements for advancement, be it merit badges, rank, religious awards, etc. Furthermore, in the Guide to Advancement it states "Policy on Unauthorized Changes to Advancement Program - No council, committee, district, unit, or individual has the authority to add to, or subtract from, advancement requirements." Why is this concept so difficult to understand? YOU CAN'T MAKE CHANGES TO THE PROGRAM! It doesn't matter that you've always done it this way - or that in our troop we do this. Some hard-headed adults have a hard time believing that some requirements are easy concepts for certain youth to comprehend. If you read the requirements, quite a few MB's are similar, and if a scout does his homework, earning a MB could be done quickly. So why do we put up with the SM's who refuse to approve work done by scouts? This happens in both good and bad units, and if you look around, and are really honest, you can find examples of this in quite a few places. We should be doing all we can to keep boys and girls in the program - not driving them away because - "That's not how we do it in our unit"
  5. shingobeek

    Where did you go to summer camp?

    Camper: Owasippie Scout Reservation (Robert Crown), Camp Bunn, Saukenauk Scout Reservation Staff: Saukenauk Scout Reservation, Camp Shin-Go-Beek, Owasippie Scout Reservation (Blackhawk), Rota-Kiwan Scout Reservation Camp School: Camp Mitigwa, Owasippie Scout Reservation, Geneva Center (x2) Leader: Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan Scout Resevation (West), Camp Shin-Go-Beek, Owasippie Scout Reservation (Blackhawk) Weekends: NO - I can't even!
  6. shingobeek

    As we approach 1 Feb 19...

    My prediction is that within short order there will come the directive that all ceremonies will be conducted in a full class A uniform. And honestly, as a former lodge chief, and as a former section chief - I have no problem with that.
  7. shingobeek

    Is BSA adult leader training necessary?

    As an adult who has been through all of the training, including wood-badge (I used to be a bear...); and a former youth that went through the entire program (Eagle Scout).. I agree with you. Adult training is focused on folks who were not part of the program as boys, and the attitude of some adults is poor - you need to go through the training like I did! That said, the training is easy - and doing it isn't going to be that difficult - do it now and be done with it - before you don't have the luxury of free time! My $0.02