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  1. Well, our troop finally made a choice and we're doing Philmont in 2019. So that likely means Northern Tier in 2020. If we'd chosen NT for 2019, I think we would have gone with 9 days, which would mean 7 on the water. Since we're doing Philmont, no skipping leg day.
  2. Very good advice, revdmv. I think 7 days would be about right for our crew. Our committee chair and I lean toward us doing Philmont in 2019 (we have a trek from the lottery). The Scoutmaster leans toward Northern Tier. The scouts, having no experience, aren't really sure. We're also looking at the ages of the kids in our troop and factoring that in. I'm trying to give the PLC as much info as possible to help the decision making process.
  3. I appreciate the info. Our troop wants go the official Northern Tier route.
  4. Now that we got our Philmont date for 2019, the troop is questioning if we'd be better off doing Northern Tier instead. Sigh... Anyway, the Northern Tier lottery is open, and I didn't realize that you pick not just your start date, but end date. I've read you need to consider how many miles you want to do per day. Could you folks who have done this tell me how many days your troop chose, what was the reasoning you used and would you have changed anything about that plan now that you've done the trek? Any strategy on dates as far as ensuring your troop gets in? We have a PLC m
  5. Thanks for the info. That will be something for the troop to consider. I will say that YPT rules apply for all troop activities, though.
  6. The reason I ask is, we don't have anyone in the troop with NT experience. I wanted to get opinions from people who know both so that I can present that to the scouts who will be age-eligible. Because our troop has lost many older scouts, the ones who could go are younger. I want to present them with the wisdom of people with experience so that they can make an informed decision so they'll enjoy it as much as possible. I appreciate all the advice!!
  7. I think our scouts want to be able to say they've done the 3 biggies, but I'm aware there are other options. I just want the scouts to be fully aware of what each entails. The likely incoming Webelo group that would be high adventure eligible in 2020 is said to enjoy hiking, so that could be a factor, too. We lost some older scouts over something rather stupid that one scout did, or is alleged to have done. We're only at about 25-30 scouts right now and not many in the upper age range. I'm trying to help out with the research so they can make a wise decision. We want to do both of thes
  8. Our troop is doing Sea Base next year. 2019 will be either Philmont or Northern Tier. Our troop is fairly young. Before presenting these options to the scouts for them to choose, I'm curious which high adventure camp is more difficult, Northern Tier or Philmont? I know that with Philmont there are a range of trek lengths and once you choose one, that's your trek. I've heard Northern Tier is more flexible. Whichever one we don't do in 2019 we'll do in 2020. Thanks!!
  9. My motto is, you're only young once, but you can always be immature.
  10. We're not withing driving distance (VA) but are willing to pay for a flight there out of our own pockets and the troop is willing to pay the course fee. Thank you @SmithsRow for the detailed reply. I think we'll try to do that!
  11. Did you do this at Philmont or at a location near you? They have an orientation thing at an office in my area. One of the other assistant scoutmasters and I saw this as a chance to get familiar with Philmont and being a mini vacation away with a chance to camp without the scouts. With airfare less than $200 to Denver, share a rental car it wouldn't be too expensive, too.
  12. Can anyone tell me about the long weekend orientation for adult leaders at Philmont? I'm looking for an overall impression and did they require you to use their gear? Thanks!
  13. Sounds like using a filter like a BeFree prior to using the tablets might make the water more pleasant. I understand going along with the Philmont rules. Forcing meals in a specific order is a bit tough to swallow, though. (I'll show myself out)
  14. They seem to carry car camping equipment, which is fine for car camping. It's heavy for backpacking.
  15. Hmmmm. I did not know that. While I strongly disagree with the concept of backpacking with giant pots, I get their reasoning and wouldn't challenge it. This one I think is just something someone made up with no basis in reality.
  16. I realize this thread is relatively old, but we're planning a 2019 Philmont trip for our troop. Something I've read elsewhere for dry camps is to eat your cooked dinner at lunch time near a water source. Then eat your lunch for dinner at the dry camp. This would greatly reduce the amount of water necessary at the dry camp since you'd need none for cooking and cleanup. Also, while I understand that Philmont mandates the use of chemical purification, would it be a good idea to take a Katadyn BeFree just to clean up murky water? Thanks!
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