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  1. @desertrat I am an ISP graduate too! Red beret and you forgot the knee high green tube top socks with shorts. For some reason I earned a TON of skill awards. Old timers guided us too: Eagle Scout former USMC Scoutmaster and former Army ASM. We were hard core campers who always did a lot of pioneering. So we got the old program too
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    And yet more changes - even Pedro is not spared

    Geez, if the geniuses at National tell us girls love the program and want everything Boy Scouts has to offer, why change the name, drop "Boys'" from "Boys' Life" etc.?
  3. Woke up this morning suddenly realizing that if girls will be able to join OA, then that means we will need adult women OA members at all chapter meetings, service projects, chapter campouts and other outings, etc. etc.etc. Even if the girls drive themselves to meetings and such, we will still need adult women OA members present. That will be a giant headache.
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    Breaking Point

    By the way, I don’t worry about what a DE or DD thinks.
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    Breaking Point

    Nope. Let’s just say I know for a fact I am not on that list
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    BSA Executive Salaries

    Some aren't "bad", I would say they are naïve or, well, let's just say they aren't the brightest light in the harbor.
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    BSA Executive Salaries

    I understand. I have held key district committee positions for several years. I know how DEs get put on PIPs, and I know what their office environment is like when they are under FOS goals. Then again, when a district is doing well, too many professionals act like it is magic or as a result of their "guidance", and they fail to acknowledge the role of volunteers' efforts.
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    BSA Executive Salaries

    ...and professionals who will not answer a phone call and take several days to reply to an email make the life of a District Committee Chair not very enjoyable, especially when the District Chair has to teach the DE how to write a business letter, how to make a sales pitch, how to close a deal...and oh yeah, teach him or her about BSA policies, procedures and practices, not to mention the Aims and Methods because the DE was never a Cub Scout, Boy Scout or Venturer. I have trained three DEs over the years, so I get it. My point is that many--not all but many--professionals treat volunteers as some sort of cog in the wheel that can be replaced. Actually, its the DEs who come and go.
  9. big open field + tent city + few actual unit leaders + adolescent male and female "Arrow-people" mixing freely....
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    Breaking Point

    I was just called a "conditional Scouter" by a council professional for expressing my displeasure about girls in OA. 🤢 I guess being an adult volunteer for 15 years and helping 49 Scouts earn the rank of Eagle Scout, being OA Chapter Advisor, taking Venturers and Boy Scouts to Philmont 4 times, and having held key district committee positions several times doesn't count for much. Oh yeah, my dad's an Eagle Scout, I am too, and so are both my sons. But somehow I am not "committed."
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    Breaking Point

    I am not an LDS Scouter but their timing is starting to look pretty good to me.
  12. I am hearing all of this through the grapevine as well. Word on the street also is an announcement at NOAC.
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    Breaking Point

    Regarding a breaking point, it is all adding up quickly for me. Scouts BSA announcement, Councils turning a blind eye to a lack of female leaders in packs, professionals pretending early adopter packs are not running co-ed dens, professionals ignoring conversations right in front of them about troops planning to run co-ed, and now the OA membership eligibility changes. I am not anti-girls. I have had young women in my crew for almost 12 years, including trips to Philmont, but this is all starting to be too much.
  14. This is incredibly disappointing. Plus the whole backdoor approach to allowing previous years of experience and camping to retroactively count rubs salt in the wound. I keep hearing rumors that National Lodge is going to "forbid" use of Native American regalia in ceremonies soon. In less than 5 years it'll be a meaningless "honor club."
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    Tap Out Question

    It figures a parent is involved in this nonsense—and probably one who is not an OA member. you should be able to find contact info for the Lodge Advisor, adult volunteer, on your lodges website. Your Chapter Advisor might know (some are really knowledgeable and some not so much).
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    Deterring thoughts of discrimination w/girls?

    @Eagle1993 @Gwaihir yeah, I get what you mean. The problem is parents are seeing this drip,, drip, drip steady stream from National about how “Scouting is for the whole family.” What happens when their son wants to join Troop 123 out of their Catholic Church but it is a boys-only troop so the daughter can’t join? So she can join a small, girls only troop out of the Lutheran Church, but it’s program isn’t as good. They will end up feeling BSA, or whatever it will be called by then, lied to them. Then the complaining will really begin
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    If they are good and are dedicated to helping their unit, Yes. Admittedly, UC are hard to recruit and really good ones are few and far between.
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    Deterring thoughts of discrimination w/girls?

    I hope you are wrong but I absolutely can see that happening. I have a hunch this whole thing has already been planned out.
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    Deterring thoughts of discrimination w/girls?

    Absolutely agree with David. Anybody with any real-world experience knows this “linked troop” business with everything shared between two troops except the SM will often lead to mixed patrols in one troop. Especially after parents and girls get used to seeing it in packs. I can hear the “but that’s how the pack did it” complaining now. Then Scouters will realize just how difficult it is to start a new unit—especially without a critical mass of girls. I am hearing from unit’s in my Council and seeing all sorts of social media posts across the country about how their unit flat out intends to go co-ed with girl and boy patrols mixed and the professionals do not correct them. Council-level professionals I work with are already saying they cannot prevent unit’s from doing that as long as on paper the unit’s are separate.
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    National, Religion, Membership, Oath and Law

    So, you mean Unit Commissioners?
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    From National: Official Name

    It isn't the sole reason but it certainly is a contributing cause. Every story from National's PR juggernaut and every story in the media has a quote from somebody saying something to the effect that, their daughter has always tagged along and done everything with the boys and they are absolutely ecstatic now because she can finally do it "officially." When the professionals acknowledge and cite it for the record, you realize how prevalent it really must be.
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    From National: Official Name

    I have done it too, and most people dont realize how exhausting it really is. You have to focus on the long game of putting all the pieces in place, recruiting and training adults, and recruiting boys (yeah, I said it) for future growth while still getting meetings and campouts done in the short term.
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    How will you talk about girls troops and packs?

    Call me cynical, but I am experienced, and as long as packs sell enough popcorn and bring in enough FOS money, the professionals will ignore packs having co-ed dens. And as long as council and districts can grow their number of units, they wont care if its on-paper only and the troops are functionally co-ed
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    Parent on Registered Sexual Offender list

    I would bypass the DE and go right to Scout Executive over sex offender concerns.
  25. According to the new marketing material, girls would just call themselves Scouts
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