Jameson76

Over under is much sooner. I would say that as the first girls could go into Scouts late summer and/or fall of 2019, then the current Webelos Den 2 girls (and as "thousands are flocking" there are likely some) will want to visit troops in about 6 months. That is when the initial uproar will happen. "What do you mean this really active troop that my daughter want to join is boy only??" and "we had separate dens in the pack, why not separate patrols??" Likely not everywhere or in every council but I bet enough to be a trend BSA National will roll over like a mobile home in a tornado...a survey will be done...boom COED

Concern is that the "Linked Troops" is (was) a new term maybe 60 days ago. It speaks to the evolving and somewhat confusing rollout for the Girls into Scouts. National and professionals are digging their own holes on this. At an annual program rollout for local council the presenting teams discussed name change (yes / no / maybe / not sure); how will summer camps handle girls (Oh we've had Co-Ed Venture groups at camp so we have great experience) which is not really true and over the last 5 years maybe 2% of the total campers and only in later less filled weeks; and that adding girls in general will have no impact and everyone (I mean everyone) is supportive of this. When the first announcement was made it was to be a parallel program (not a great term - separate but equal) then that has morphed to Linked troops. Which are NOT (hear me) CoEd even though they meet at the same CO, share a committee, meet at the same time, go on the same outing, have the same unit number, but they are separate...right??? As a unit our goal (hope) is to stay as we are and provide the program and outdoor experience to the young men in our community. The concern is whether we will be allowed to maintain that course. Current input is yes we will, but the track record from National speaks differently as what is good today, may not be tomorrow. While within uncertainty there is always opportunity, there is also unease.

Not to diminish all the other items going on with the pack. I thought that the rule was clear. "A Scout may not multiple register in two troops." Registration Procedures Manual.

There appears to be a lot going on with that pack.... Seems to be a good bit of blending with the Pack / Troop / Committee (s??) / etc as the terms seem to be used interchangebly

What if someone read it in a funny accent? Maybe used puppets to act out what they read? Maybe a culture night with Kabuki and stylized dance.

On the flip side the returning of the Totin' Chit by the SPL in the Honors of War ceremony is very moving That ceremony always brings a tear to my eye, especially when the Queen stops by...she is a stickler for Totin' Chip regulations. She has not commented as much on the Firem'n Chit, but rumour has it she may address that in her next missive

Especially effective if you snap their knives in half and sing Branded! Marked with a coward's shame. What do you do when you're branded, Will you fight for your name?

I believe there is also waterboarding involved to fully drive home the error of their ways, though I may have misread that part

There was a short lived Playboy Patrol in Atlanta in the 70's, they had even scheduled bunnies to come present the patrol patches. Then the angry fist of BSA sensibilities came down on the young scouts

Sort of could go either way

Wow - and they said it would not happen, they literally assured us it would not happen with letters form the key 3 and everything... Oh...

Would agree. But as BSA National really did not engage and do anything, were they not implicitly allowing it? Not taking proactive actions in and of itself is in fact an action.

" NUTS! " US General Anthony McAuliffe- acting division commander of the 101st Airborne Division, Bastogne, Belgium 12/22/1944

Agree - we have Life / Eagle youth scouts sign off on advancement. Gets the younger scouts to have conversations with the older scouts.

NOOO...Not water pistols!!! Oh the humanity. Next you will tell me they may have engaged in things like water balloon fights, noodle wars at the pools, or even "shudder" dodgeball. Rumor has it some unit actually had (hope you are sitting down) cubs that picked up sticks and ran around pointing them at each other going "bang" "bang". Luckily they were put into intense therapy to curb such foolishness.

Pretty sure the under the table girls participating and the "Aahh shucks" well units already have girls was a big talking point. Valid observation they were never officially registered but it was one of the reasons cited for the changes. Heck...we're doing it anyway

Only in the cone of silence

Curse you New World Order!!!

I prefer the brand that has to boiled (and thus purified) prior to use. Sort of kills two birds with one stone; lightweight and convenient and also safe to drink.

The 2017 course material still speaks of the the six essentials: As a quick reminder, the Cub Scout Six Essentials for hiking are a first-aid kit, a filled water bottle, a flashlight, trail food, sun protection, and a whistle.

Use the “St. Crispin’s Day Speech” from Shakespeare’s Henry V. In it King Henry exemplifies manliness in action as he rallies his army against the highly skilled French knights Always a crowd pleaser...

Well...BSA National has more to worry about than a name change by 2020 (and 2022). Gonna need to keep existing numbers and add about 1.8 million new Scouts (any gender welcomed) and keep them for the next 4 years to cover all of this need From the 2016 annual report: In March 2012, the National Council issued debt to finance the development of the Summit. $175,000,000 in 10-year, tax exempt bonds was added to the existing 2010 Series A and B bonds, and the 5-year $50,000,000 line of credit was increased by $25,000,000 to $75,000,000. Bond issuance costs were $100,000. The Series A bond was paid in 2015 and the Series B bond has monthly principal and interest payment with a balloon payment of $40,363,000 due in 2020. The $175,000,000 bonds payable, requires monthly interest and principal payments with a balloon payment of $136,834,000 due in 2022. The organization’s entire bond proceeds have been used for development of the Summit. But...on the plus side... Management believes that cash generated from operations, together with the liquidity provided by existing cash balances, the line of credit, along with significant donor contributions, will continue to be sufficient to pay the bond payments as scheduled. So we've got that belief going for us