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Directed by Irene Taylor, Executive Producer Brian Grazer & Ron Howard Streaming on Hulu & release scheduled in New York & LA June 16 Will focus on alleged century-long sexual abuse cover-up by the Boy Scouts of America. It will also explore the declining membership and bankruptcy case. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/boy-scouts-doc-trailer-abuse-scandal-leave-no-trace-1235159517/

I like the spirit of this idea; however, I doubt most if any scouts can really do a great job on a statue. I could only imagine an arm falling off in a year or two. Perhaps scouts can help spot weld some of the pieces together and a few professional welders can finish with good clean tig welds. I would be more optimistic if they just cut the statue in half or thirds. They really cut it up a lot. I wonder if it would be better to just melt down the bronze and have someone do a new casting.

https://apnews.com/article/politics-congress-sexual-abuse-9e991d917edc0f10b17e586b8f8259d2

Best to contact an attorney. My understanding of the paths forward (if the plan is approved): 1) Take the immediate $3500 payout no questions asked. 2) Go through TDP path. You will likely have to fill out some sort of document with more details. Based on your claims (severity) and state where they occurred (that factors in SOL) they will come out with a value. Note that as of now, the only individuals who get separate payments is LDS victims. So, the chartered org does not factor into the calculation for you or any non LDS victim. 3) Go through the neutral path. Pay $10K

I think legal blame really depends on the case. There was an example of a CO who didn't register a leader and allowed the abuse to continue. I think COs are clearly to blame in a case like this. Other cases go to different extremes. For example an abuser was also the parent of the scout and the abuse was never reported to BSA. It is tough to hold BSA liable for that case. I think that is why bankruptcy court is a bad path of addressing these cases. It lumps all of them together, averages out details and comes up with a number. However, allowing tens of thousands of individual c

Yes ... I reversed that. Prior to 1976 chartered orgs still face liability and 1976 to present all are covered.

Chartered Organizations are directly responsible for the units where abuse occurred. So, they will face liability in individual cases. How liable they are will vary case by case. Now, I believe only 2 chartered orgs are fully freed from pre 2020 liability (LDS & Methodist) if this deal goes through. The remaining chartered orgs are free from ~1976 and prior liability but could face lawsuits post 76 to present. Councils ... similar. They were responsible for providing oversight to units ... so could be found liable for the abuse. Again, that will vary case by case. 100% of counc

Ok. I'm going to lock down this for a bit.

April's operating expense hit the docket. BSA is down to $45M of cash. April was an expensive bankruptcy month $16M of spend. Good news is that registration income is >> 2021 as is income from HA bases. Registration went from $4.0M in Apr 2021 to $6.3M in Apr 2022 HA Base income from $2.7M in Apr 2021 to $5.0M in Apr 2022. I haven't seen any update from the court. This wait seems very long. I still lean to her approving the plan, but I wouldn't be surprised if she has found some issues and is making it very clear where the issues (and where there are no issues).

Our school administrators report to the school board. The school board translates the community beliefs into standards for the school to meet. Taxpayers in my community would likely support keeping BSA out if there was a political argument. The argument would be the DRP. In terms of schooling, we have the highest test scores in the state and typically have National Merit finalists and kids going to most Ivy League schools. My son is on track to take BC calc his junior year and has been offered much more rigor in schooling and academics than I was every provided back in the 80s/90s. Th

Our elementary school has banned scouts during school hours. We cannot advertise for scouting in any official school documents. Since PTO is independent, we were able to post on their FB page which has limited impact. For several years we were able to put yard signs between the sidewalk & street ... but the school has now banned that and removed/threw away our signs (without notifying us). Our DE was found on school grounds during the day to drop off some flyers to a teacher (who was a Cub Scout leader). The principal saw him and told him to leave immediately (he told me she threatene

Given BSA's partnership with the NRA and the NRA's hardline stance against gun reform it is tough to see BSA as a neutral party. To be fair though, I am not aware of alternate organizations that provide good gun safety instructor training. I (as does many scouters) want to see BSA continue shooting sports, so I expect that partnership to continue. There is really no point in arguing about this on an online forum. No one will change their minds and nothing is ever done. After we simply accepted the outcome of Sandy Hook with no action, I'm not sure what could ever happen that could re

The issue is this.. If this is true, it is not appropriate. It is one thing for a CC to ask for information and to discuss in a committee (though, it think you should be careful and it should be avoided in more serious charges). That said, I find it odd to think it is appropriate to have an entire Troop meeting to discus the issue in hand. Now, after an investigation is complete, perhaps some report to the Troop is appropriate if changes are required. Otherwise, I have a hard time understanding why it is appropriate to have all members and volunteers involved.

100% agree with this. It is one thing asking a parent to volunteer to be a soccer coach. That takes a few hours a week for a couple of months of the year. Scouting takes more and is year round and a decade. Even the most dedicated have a hard time managing that. I also think while we saw some recovery post Covid ... the impact of Covid may last a long time. I don't mean vax, social distancing or masks. I mean that families saw a life where little Johnny didn't have 25 hours per week of scheduled activities. Sports seems to have bounced back, but things like music lessons, language

I have not seen any details on how to properly conduct a youth protection violation investigation in either a committee or chartered org handbook. I expect BSA would not want committee chairs or chartered orgs to be leading these investigations. This isn't a volunteer's role.

I wouldn't think a committee should be investigating a YPT report that was submitted to the council. Other than cooperating with the investigation, a unit committee should not be involved. If I were CC, I would simply ask the SE if there was any immediate action needed and if not, move on. There are times for volunteers to take the lead. There are times for professionals to lead. This is a time where volunteers should take a step back and let the professionals run the investigation/actions. They have the training, experience and any resulting liability to run a proper investigatio

If you are being targeted for reporting a possible YPT violation, that is a serious issue. I think it goes even beyond the initial case. Unless the output of the investigation indicated the parent lied, I cannot imagine this was an appropriate action. Unfortunately, that has been reported in the past here. Note BSA does have an anti retaliation policy for employees, but I have yet to see one for volunteers. https://filestore.scouting.org/filestore/controller/BSA_Whistle_Blower_Policy.pdf @ThenNow @MYCVAStory ... do you know if the youth protection changes from bankrup

Bullying-What_is_Bullying.pdf (scouting.org) Reporting_Bullying.pdf (scouting.org) Myths About Bullying (scouting.org) This is how BSA defines bullying and how to report it. An Imbalance of Power: --> yes, if it was from an adult, there is a clear imbalance of power Repetition --> Not clear. It sounds like it may be repeated. To me, that is the big difference between bullying and just someone being a bit of a jerk. Given what you said, it probably warrants reporting to SE for an investigation to get the full story .. especially if this SM/ASM has been r

Depends on how many Bitcoins the foundation was invested in. I think the BSA will stay in Ch 11 as long as the current plan is on the table. They have the liquidity and the foundation will back them up for a few months if needed. The real danger to BSA if this plan is outright rejected (either by the bankruptcy court or fairly quickly by district). In one of the hearings, BSA lawyers indicated the foundation will only loan BSA $ if they are out of bankruptcy. If the foundation sees the CH11 plan rejected, I wouldn't be surprised if they decide they need to save their $ for futur

Interesting ... perhaps the judge was reading scouter.com. In terms of multiple appeals, I think it really is pretty simple. If the bankruptcy court approves the case, it will go to district court. However, the plan will start implementing. If district court wants to stop the plan, they actually have to act fairly fast. If it takes them a year+ to review, most issues will be moot (basically, it will be too late to make much of an impact). So, I think we will know pretty quickly if the bankruptcy is over for BSA. Yes, there could be issues within the trust in the future, but I e

Part of me is a bit suspicious of the BSA court case here. I wonder if this is a method to try and get GSUSA to drop their own case and remove their claim in bankruptcy court. The $16M is nearly identical to the $16-$17M GSUSA is seeking in bankruptcy.

The GSUSA was arguing that they were not treated fairly in the BSA bankruptcy. The GSUSA was claiming that they have a good case and think they will win in appeal (or at least could win). Then they will seek a fees, etc. GSUSA estimated $17M impact but BSA only offered insurance that would pay a very small fraction of that possible outcome. The BSA's argument was that GSUSA is very unlikely to get $17M. The judge didn't buy BSA's argument. So ... GSUSA's main ask is that post bankrupt BSA backstops the plan. If GSUSA wins $15M and bankrupt BSA plan only gives them $500K, post bankru

My guess - it would have to be weeks. Lock all groups in a room and work through language ... understanding that the alt path is likely CH 7. I haven't seen any update from the court. The BSA finalized voting ~March 11 and it has been over a month since the hearing ended. Purdue Pharma (which was a big bankruptcy) took from Aug 2 (voting end) to Sept 13 to get a judge's official ruling but the judge indicated he would approve Aug 27th. (So they knew approval would occur <1 month after the vote). We are over 2 months since the final vote and a month since hearing closed and

@Eagledadsimply said girls are better at planning and boys may feel intimated and back off. He never said that means women belong in the kitchen (nor even eluded to that). https://www.nm.org/healthbeat/healthy-tips/battle-of-the-brain-men-vs-women-infographic Perhaps this + the differences in development (female brains mature earlier than male) could lead to some behavior differences between boys and girls in a mixed setting. I read what @Eagledadwrote. I think there is an argument to be made that boys could be better off within a single gender troop with only male leade