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There are also A LOT of chatter at my council that Venturing will change as well. As I was told, it was already seen as a program in decline (lowest number of members and highest attrition rate over last few years). So, until announced officially, I am not sure that Venturing will remain unchanged. I agree with @Eagle94-A1. Our council has also discussed paper dens and Troops. It will happen. There are already Troops with girls now with blue cards tracking MB progress. They will find a way to comply on paper but create a coed Troop (theirs leaders, scouts and parents want it).

I’ve had a couple of discussions with my DE but to mention of this webinar yet. I know there is a multi page FAQ that he was referencing. That is how I know we need new leaders for the Girl den(s) and there is no minimum number of girls per grade.

Week T-1 Update We now have 5 girls interested in joining our Pack. 4 are current GSUSA members and 3 have brothers in the Pack. We have not pushed recruiting at all and do not plan to so I expect our early adopter numbers to be low. So far, 2 Lions, 1 Wolf and 2 Bears. Two of the girls would bring a new family to the Pack. Their father is an Eagle Scout and former scout leader (he doesn’t have sons so he hasn’t been involved with our Pack). Next week... committee meeting, meeting with DE.

@lupacexi First welcome to scouter. Your post is off topic so you may want to start a new topic in our U23 ASEAN FC section. Also, Cho was offsides at 23’ so it should have been a draw. So, please return to the topic at hand... Scouting options in the Sioux Falls area.

I just spent the last hour looking at the BSA reviews in Glassdoor. While you have to be careful believing everything there are many DEs who have submitted reviews over the last year. You can probably guess the overall tone of the feedback... Great feeling of helping and working with many volunteers and scouts. Pathetic pay $35-$40k per year and horrible work/life balance working 60-70 hours a week, most weekends and weekday nights. They also have issues regarding council and national leadership, outdated business model, wasteful spending and risky income sources. A couple h

I believe the report should be available to the public. I’m not sure if the below incident was discussed but it was another case of three boys (one killed two injured) in a sailboat that came into contact with overhead lines. http://www.ecmweb.com/content/dont-get-zapped-cable-clearance-over-water Without making it public, how do regulatory agencies and private companies not involved with the incident ensure they have the proper processes in place to prevent this from occurring in other locations? The goal should be to learn from these incidents to help prevent future harm.

Or just go on eBay and buy a car. Have your au pair attend the Pack meeting with your son and fire her if he loses. I’m not sure why everyone is making this so complicated. I’m not a fan of 3D printed car idea at this point... perhaps in the future when they are cheaper and more widely available. For now, keep it simple and have the kids build as much of the car as they can based on their ability. Ever since we found out (after the race ceremony) that our winning scouts car was purchased for nearly $100 on eBay I’ve soured on the event. Overall it is fun for parents and kids b

I have no doubt most positions will be filled. I also agree that the BSA may luck into some great people willing to work hard and stay on board with a low salary. My concern is that generally you will not see consistent strong long term employees if you cut pay and benefits. My wife’s food pantry is prime example. They found a guy. He isn’t innovative, sometimes misses deadlines, doesn’t fundraise well, etc. However he shows up, the pantry functions and isn’t a drunk (all of which have been issues in the past). They really want a better leader but cannot find one willing to work for

https://town-village.com/2018/01/03/st-girl-recognized-as-boy-scout-after-11-years-of-scouting/ While Sydney told Town & Village this week she would like to see the BSA do away with the holdup on accepting girls, she said she is now satisfied with how things turned out. I wonder how much of this push for her being Eagle is her father vs her. Note that she does reference if she will get credit for her prior work.

The reason we are pushing is that some of the girls were interested in summer camps this summer. By allowing them to join now they are eligible for camp. Otherwise I agree and I’m not pushing any recruitment outside our current Pack families until next Scout year.

This option should not be overlooked. My nephew was in Boy Scouts for years. He hated Troop meetings (boring) but enjoyed the outings. His grandfather (my dad) is still heavily involved in his Troop (committee member and at council runs many EBOR) and has had arguments with his Troop leader (who plays favorites and invents requirements for advancement). Last blow up came when she refused to sign off all of the scouts leadership positions (except her sons) when she didn’t think they performed them to her expectations. My dad pulled my nephew from the Troop and signed him up with another.

I had a meeting with my DE. Very few packs are proceeding with this option (my understanding is that my Pack is the only one or two in his district), so yes we will have a lot of love and attention from our DE. The DE will setup training and help explain how we can run a single cross grade den (similar to how he runs the extension? program). Our DE has been very helpful but I do expect he will be monitoring for national. I’m not sure what involvement there will be outside our DE; however, he emphasized that they will look for new leaders to be registered as den leaders to show se

Does anyone have an rough org chart of BSA? I’m curious what exists above the council level. What could be saved at various levels to put more money at those directly working with scouters? I don’t know if there is waste but I would be interested in the details. I’ve worked at companies where large amount of cash was spent in HQ vs out in the field where it would have been more effective.

This race exists for boys as well. Just search 11 year old Eagle Scout. I agree it is not a good thing, but it doesn’t really bother me that much. From my experience those scouts are rare, a bit annoying but otherwise harmless to the remaining scouts. If anything, it means the scouts that are racing get less out of the program. I understand the girls who would age out racing to get Eagle more so than a boy (or girl) racing when they have plenty of time.

A scout is Thrifty! Without a doubt, pensions are becoming a rare benefit. That said, I don’t believe DE’s salaries are high (based upon previous forum threads) and the loss of this benefit won’t help. Yes, one can live off low salaries but not everyone is willing to work for $30-$40-$50k less per year. My wife is a volunteer president of a food pantry. The salary and benefits they offer their employees is minimal. The issue they are running into is finding great leaders willing to work for such low salary and benefits, so they settle for suboptimal performance. My concern is

If there is any question about BSA’s financial status I think this answers it. The combination of cutting a pension benefit, huge increase in annual membership fee and admitting girls seems to point to a cash concern. I think the 2017 annual report will be an interesting read (2016 looked like a disaster). I expect massive council consolidation (similar to Michigan) as the cost cutting continues. I hope BSA finds a way to financial health soon. I’m impressed with my DE and the amount of time he works. Sad to see this benefit go away.

Her “fight” could have been both about her own interest and also the broader “good”. Either way, I think BSA should keep this simple. Set the start date for girls, any girl that joins must meet the requirements (including timeline) for Eagle. I think that leaves her out but honestly there are probably 1,000s of other girls in similar situations who did work without recognition. I dont think she should get special treatment because her dad was a rich NYC lawyer who ensured her story was publicized. True leaders would be excited for the change and confident that their work is the true m

So, we have started the process to add girls as part of the early adopter program. Still early in the process so we will see where this goes Requirements are similar to what you saw in the video. It is clear they want us to keep the boy and Girl dens separate. They want new den leaders for the all girls den(s). It was mentioned that if we have 9 boys and 5 girls in the same level, they could meet same time/place but should have separate leaders and be separate during the activity. This is an emphasis of the early adopter program. They do not want commingled dens. Minimum num

I expect to see a lot of these announcements nationwide, especially if councils take advantage of the marketing potential. To date, all of the discussion have been theory. Once the general population starts seeing girl and boy cub scouts in Pinewood derby races opinions may get a bit softer and recruiting efforts may be more successful in the fall.

Our council announced that they are looking for some Packs to add girls as early as Jan 15. Our Pack is considering taking this on and are in discussions with Council on what prerequisites we must have in place. Will keep you posted if we go ahead....

I think it depends on Pack size. Let’s say I have a 40 Bear Scouts, 30 boys and 10 girls. I expect limited issues finding appropriate leadership. Now, in my Pack, I expect ~12-15 boy Bear Scouts and 2-3 girls. One of the girls has already been attending all of the Bear den meetings and outings as she is the twin sister of a current member and her mom is one of the den leaders. We already talked as a Pack and we do no plan on splitting that group. We already have a male and female den leader for the existing Bear den. When they move to Webelos we plan on making those two the same

I think their plan is the min wait periods so you are correct it would be longer than 1 year. I guess my question would be regarding girls who completed the requirements for merit badges prior to official membership during the EBOR. For example, if their record shows they earned 10-15 merit badges within 1 month of joining BSA. Technically they performed the requirements, but before officially becoming a member. I imagine this will be occurring across the US as Troops race to have the first female Eagle Scouts, and I’m curious how EBORs will handle it. I think this will be a much more com

I do not see the BSA offering (nor should they) Ireland Eagle (given the number of other girls that could also claim the same circumstances). I have heard of at least one Troop in Illinois who currently has unofficial girl members They are filling out blue cards, keeping track of activities, etc. Their plan is to create Troop 123B with identical leadership as their current Troop That Troop will have girls and would meet the same time and place as Troop 123. As soon as girls are allowed in, they plan to sign off on all the blue cards and provide merit badges and the appropriate r

My focus is on the grade school age portion (primarily Cub scouts). If you read the guides you’ll see that GSUSA offers similar activities as Cub Scouts .... they just offer many more options. This isn’t just Camp Beverly Hills... though that option probably exists.

I’m in Southeastern Wisconsin. I’ll ask about paid staff at our district meeting. Both Cub Scout and Girl Scout camps are in the range of $175 per week. Some of the Girl Scout camps charge extra for bussing (the bus stop is two blocks from my house). The Cub Scout camps do not offer bussing. One example... Cub scouts have In-town day camp which is similar to the Girl Scouts community Day Camp. The Cub Scout in town day camp is led by adults (with some Boy Scout volunteers. The Girl Scout community day camp is lead by their teen Girl Scouts. I think that helps immensely as the adu