Eagle1993

Let me make it simple for you... The new program being proposed for girls is not additional Patrols in an existing Troop, but new Girls only Troops. If nationals really wants that to roll out correctly (and not be paper Troops) they will need to allow plenty of time for the the organizational structure to get in place. Adding a den is fairly easy in an existing Pack. Having volunteers generate brand new Troops will take a lot more work and time. If they don’t want girls waiting around until mid 2019 for crossover then nationals will have to launch the program this fall. If nationals

Not only that but it takes time to generate a new unit. It took me 2-3 weeks of IT hoops and leader training just to add a den in an existing pack. If they want new Troops for girls ready by April 2019 they need to start soft launching this year. That will allow COs to generate the new Troops. Leaders for these troops to be put in place. Bank accounts created. Treasures, CC, SM, ASM all trained. Then what about new equipment? Reservations for meeting locations. There are a ton of activities for a new Troop and I’d expect they’ll need 3-6 months lead time so when the girls join the logis

We discussed this with our CO who passed a formal resolution during the board meeting stating they would support either direction that our Pack committee would choose. Our COR and IH supported adding girls. I definitely agree with the comments that the CO should be informed and decide which direction the Pack should take.

This is in order of likelihood a pigtail mafia member will leave a thin mint bomb in your mailbox. 1 - start with sisters of existing members 2 - have them reach out to their friends to recruit them to join 3 - standard Join Scouts Night stuff (flyers, yard signs, emails). Have something fun to do for the kids and ensure some girls that plan to join attend 4 - reach out to existing GSUSA scouts 5 - recruit existing GSUSA Troop leaders 6 - boom... your mailbox just exploded Overall, I don’t see much of a difference from recruiting boys other than making sure

Paper applications are now being accepted. Most of the girls were able to register online but the. BSA payment system seems flaky after a couple of the parents spent hours using various browsers. One parent said they checked their CC bill and found the BSA had charged them 8 x $33 ($264) (once for each attempt to register). She said she is sure the BSA will refund the money ...🙄 There is an article online with our major paper and I’m working with them so they spell our Pack number correctly. The council is having the other Pack lead the media effort and I’m perfectly content. I think

Given their take on cookie sales that is probably about $12.

I agree with the above. I may have read the other comment incorrectly but I did not see volunteers state that they wanted the separate but equal program. At all of my District and “family scouting” meetings there were questions on where the volunteers would come from given the proposal. There were questions from COs in how this would logistically work. The opinions were either fully implement coed or stay away. I didn’t see much (or any) support of separate Troops. It appears that national is now realizing this.

This was exactly the opposite of what I have heard at our meetings. Most have voiced support of fully coed and rejected this proposal as there were not enough volunteers to implement.

A good point regarding Cub Scouts in that it could establish the mindset in Boy Scouts. I’m not sure what you mean by agenda driven. I find most of the comments in all of these forums agenda driven. Some have agendas to keep BSA boy led. Others have agendas to change OA. I guess what agenda are you alluding to. Only 11.2% of corporate officers in Fortune 500 companies are women (I assume that means 88.7% are men and 0.1% are other). Only 4.2% have female CEOs. Clearly there is a fall off of women leaders somewhere...

I think leadership of coed Packs and BSA4G Troop who will run like coed will have to watch for this and it may be a good reason to ensure there remains some segregation within a coed program. I don’t see much concern at Cub scouts as it is parent run and there are really no leadership roles. At Boy Scout level, for those Troops that combine (they’ll exist) I certainly hope they keep the Patrols separate to allow both boy and girl PLs and even keep separate SPLs. While girls dominating may contine into high school, I’m actually not seeing women leaders take over my workplace (in the U

@Pselb Before this thread goes down a path of pro/con girls I would recommend (to all) that those posts go in Issues and Politics. There has been pages of debate and I definitely have no issues seeing that debate continue and I believe you have some valid points and concerns. I posted this in programs as my goal with this tread is to talk of the actual program as we add girls and issues/challenges/ideas as BSA already made the call and Packs that decide to add girls should have the ability to share experiences and ideas.

Well, our 83 year old Pack just had our first girl den meeting... and I believe the Earth is still rotating. No media present but we did have some pictures taken of the girls. Most were in uniform and no skorts. Overall it was a lot calmer than a boy den meeting. We have 3 den leaders working the 3 separate age groups present. All of us we experienced in the Pack and we remarked that we need to prepare more as the girls got through the material more quickly than we planned. That could be due to smaller groups, but they were also a bit more focused. Several of the girls were tal

I’ve seen several kids hit trees (not scouting) while sledding... luckily no ER visits. If you are not careful you can easily misjudge your speed (and thus length of run at bottom) or your ability to control yourself going straight. My heart goes out to this family and it will make me think twice when I send my kids out sledding without helmets (we’ve never used them for sledding or seen them used).

This looks good to me. We also have energetic Scouts and a few tips that helped us: Parents discouraged from attending den meetings after Tiger. After Tiger they are just in the way and can distract the scouts. Having keep busy activities available for the time before Pack meeting starts. In some cases bins of legos, others Holiday card making, etc. Something to keep them occupied. Den Meeting whistle. Some may frown but Iit works. I had a den leader forget his whistle one day and it looked as if he had PTSD after the meeting.

A council had hooters help sponsor a camp??? My company won’t even reimburse Hooters expenses on corporate cards (they lump them in with the “gentlemen’s” club list). I love that sassy ass response from the DE. I’m surprised he didn’t reference the wings.

Wow. What next? Bars, smoke shops, strip clubs?

Let’s talk about some of the metoo “victims” #1st tweet was on Harvey Weinstein by Ashley Judd (Oct 5) Roy Price was taken out Oct 11... Larry Nassar Oct 18... Kevin Spacy Oct 29... Roy Moore Nov 9.... Louis C.K. Nov 10... Matt Lauer Nov 29... Garrison Keillor Nov 30... at first I thought perhaps this one was a reach, until MPR came out with a bit more info... Russell Simmons Nov 30... Al Franken Dec 7 Mario Batali Dec 11 Gary Goddard Dec 20.. Read about these. Which men should be put back in their position? What I see is man

I guess my question to you is what do you want to see? I want women to feel unpowered and report instances of sexual harassment and assault. Those reports should be fully investigated and guilty individuals should lose their jobs and freedom, if appropriate. Too many times women (and men) have been silent as we have seen over the last 3-4 months.

@Pselb I guess I’m more worried about the next Jerry Sandusky or Larry Nassar. Both were accused and their accusers were ignored for years.

What dynamic? I understand the concern of false accusations but I haven’t see waves of men fired unjustifiedly. I have seen bad men finally loosing their jobs and freedom after years of ignoring their previous accusers.

I haven’t seen any changes at my workplace; however, we have had a rigorous sexual harassment program along with a great omsbud system. Over the last 20 years, I know of three people accused. Two were fired, and rightly so. One was exonerated with no impact to his career. We still have one on one meetings with females, no issues. It’s been really difficult, but I’ve managed to keep my pants on for all of my meetings with my female coworkers. The general discussions at our workplace is the shock in how out of control some workplaces must have been to allow this behavior to continue as lon

Not clear. It was just the fact that I saw no engagement from council on several matters other than FOS (and other fundraisers).

I just came back from one of the most depressing District meetings I had been to in years. There was a proposal to create a council wide camporee for Cubs through Boy Scouts, with a goal of 1,000 Scouts . The council voted it down as it was not in their best interest. Now the Districts are left hoping they can pull something together. Another topic came up regarding councilwide service project... no support from council. FOS ... well, that is the focus for them this year. From my limited experience, the order should be Program - Recruiting - Fundraising. If you put on great council

I always liked Churchill’s quote “Plans are of little importance, but planning is essential.” OR Tyson...”Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth.”