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  1. KYScouter


    I found this interesting (from section I): "One-on-one contact between adult leaders and youth members is prohibited both inside and outside of Scouting." A literal reading of this would mean that I can never again babysit my scout nephew, even if it's not a scouting event. Yikes. (Of course an even more literal reading of this means my brother can no longer take his scout son to school while mom takes younger brother to daycare.)
  2. KYScouter

    Am I the only one?

    Wow, I read things like this on here and I learn how lucky I am to be in my little council. I also volunteer at the district level and I have heard the SE tell the DE's (and carry through on it) that if they ran a district event and showed a profit he would fire them. His theory being that if your event showed a profit, you didn't offer the kiddos enough program. We may be struggling for funds, we may be spread out all over a huge territory of rural counties, but at least we don't have to deal with the kind of stuff I read about on here. I feel for you guys, hang in there and find a role where you can maximize the experience for the scouts and keep your sanity. Also, I promise not to gripe so much about stuff that goes on at my council.
  3. I helped run the BB gun range at the council cub camp out this past weekend. Long, cold and wet days to get things set up and then run (to be fair, the archery crew had it worse. At least we had cover on the rifle range.) So, the activities are over and I'm heading back to the dining hall to get some sweet nectar of life (coffee) and ran into some of the Cubs. One said "You're range master KYScouter from BB, right?" I said yes and he proceeded to tell me that was the most fun thing he did all camp. Another little guy recognized me and introduced me to his mom.....high praise from a little boy. The weekend was totally worth it!
  4. KYScouter

    Do Tigers bite?

    I've filled in for a tiger den leader a few times, due to illness and whatnot. What I've learned is that the little guys work great with silly. If you can take a lesson plan and make it silly, that's great. Den Cheers? yep. Den yells? "Are there any Tigers here?" Each boy stops, makes his "tiger face" and yells "rawr!!" Den leader doing a pantomime of a camel with marshmallow humps while the boys sing "Alice the Camel?" They love it. The other thing is to turn it into a game, especially an activity game if the boys are starting to get wiggly.... scout oath or law relay? Check (Put the Words on cut up pieces of poster board, teams of 3-4 boys and they have to take turns running down to get the pieces and put them in order) This works with healthy snack relay, basically anything where you can turn it into a game where they are running around,that's great. The little guys aren't expecting us to be a master of public speaking, keep it fun, keep it on their level and you'll do fine!
  5. We are at 46 boys and we require the parents to stay with their boys. With the various younger siblings that also end up staying, we're really close to the max number of people we can have, so even 4-5 would likely push us over the occupancy rating, We already cross our fingers and hope the fire marshal doesn't show up for Pinewood or a couple of our other events where we have grandparents, uncles, etc. That said, in our rural area where the girl scout unit is mostly about doilies and cookies, I fully expect we would have at least 20-25 who would join today if we let them. We are also trying to get a boy scout troop restarted, since we have none in the county. Our AOL boys who finished last year only had the option of going out of county to join a troop, and to my knowledge, none of them did, so we're making a push to find volunteers to form a troop. Most likely our volunteers will be our current AOL parents, but they have younger boys in the cubs and have already said they would prefer to meet on the same night as the cubs. As I mentioned, at the Cub level I see no problems, honestly, with letting the girls in. The main issue is just space, and honestly like it always is with our current pack, volunteers. We've had good luck with going to the dens and saying that if no one steps up to be den leader, we won't be able to do it. Since we already have two of our 6 dens led by moms, I expect the same method would work with girl dens. Oh well, I guess this will be a problem for down the road. My immediate concerns are re-charter and trying to recruit another member of the pack committee.... maybe even one who wants to be the chair and take over one of my hats! lol I'm also the COR, so between unit, district and council duties, I would really like to turn the planning and budget duties for the pack over to someone else.
  6. Here's the problem that I see, as I'm not opposed to letting girls into Cub Scout, it's a problem of logistics. Our CO is a civic club and we meet in their building. We have 45 boys and we are bursting at the seams of what our building can accommodate. So, where do we put the girls who join? We physically don't have the space to add more kids. Okay, so we're a civic club, if we don't admit girls, we're going to get sued into oblivion. I guess I have two choices, find another local CO for a girls pack or recommend to my club that we no longer sponsor scouts period. This, on top of national "kindly" deciding to effectively steal 1/4 of my pack budget with their fee increase after recruitment has led to this whole thing being more stressful than I care to think about right now. I'm not at burn out yet, but I can see it from here.
  7. KYScouter

    Cub Scout Outdoor Activity Award

    Chartered Org. Rep. and Pack Committee Chair Here, First, I've always been told in District Committee meetings and training sessions that I have attended that the districts are just operational units of the council, so any district event is really a council event. Whoever does your advancement report, in my Pack that is me, is the one who you need to talk to about the award. It's a unit level award that goes on an advancement report, it's not like you are awarding a kid the Silver Beaver here. It's my understanding that ether the Den Leader, the Cub Master or the Pack Advancement chair (which in my Pack falls to me as Committee Chair) can sign off on the award. I'm reminded of the sign off of the approximately 9000 little videos I had to watch for training, "Keep it Simple, Make it Fun!"