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  1. In our Troop we allow First Class and above Scouts to sign off on First Class and below Scouts Rank Advancement. We feel it helps with Leadership. We do have a discussion with all new First Class Scouts to ensure they follow the "Describe", "Show", "Demonstrate" instructions for making certain the Scouts completed the requirement.
  2. I think when it is all done, you will be glad you did. You also get to experience those campouts and events all over again. I know I would have regretted not doing it. Just enjoy the moment.
  3. In our Troop, we don't have any rules prohibiting it. I have two sons in the Troop and if anything, they get held to a higher standard by me as the Scoutmaster for that very reason also. But, that being said "A Scout is Trustworthy". I have signed off on several things in both of my sons handbooks. I have also been their Merit Badge Counselor. On Tuesday, I conducted my Sons Eagle Scoutmaster Conference. Who else better to do it than me, I have been with him on his Scouting Adventure since he was a Tiger. It lasted almost 45 minutes and we could have talked all night. I did have anothe
  4. Now wearing a uniform makes it harder. Sad
  5. Again and I'm sorry but as the IH and CO, you have no say in BSA Policy. You are suppose to promote Scouting according to BSA Policy and Guidelines not as YOU see fit which includes the uniform. You should go back and read the Guide and Responsibilities of the Charter Organization or take some additional Training. By allowing the bar to be lowered, we just accept a lower standard of our Scouts. We are suppose to be helping guide and shape these Scouts to be future leaders of this country. By allowing them to take the easy way out is not why we are here. Life is hard and we have a respons
  6. Are you saying that there are not any Girl Troops in your area? If not, I would contact your District Commissioner and have them get together with other Packs in the area with girls that want to cross over. I am sure there are many businesses, churches, Moose Lodges, that would love to charter a Girl Troop. Then I would contact local sports stores like REI and tell them your story. Might get gently used equipment for donations. That is absurd that no one will step up.
  7. So David CO, why do you do Scouting then. You constantly push back against everything that is Scouting. I notice that you are one of the folks on this group that post negative comments about what Scouting is. I don't get it. If you don't want to wear a uniform or follow policies and want to do the exact opposite or find and pick each and every opening to do the opposite of what the program is really about, why do it. Why not move on and find something that aligns with your views?
  8. So now we are talking about every country in the world to make the narrative fit right. Yes, that is why we wear the uniform. This is the problem with BSA today. A great program was developed and is based on following the Scout Oath, Law, Outdoor Code and the points of Scouting. Also deeply rooted is TRADITION. Things keep getting changed in some cases just to change things other times, people want to come in and cause trouble just to cause trouble. BSA has a program with a rules, policies and yes, we wear a uniform. Again, I say, if you don't want to follow the rules, policies and
  9. Once again go as far to the other end as possible. Yes we wear a uniform for a reason. Pride, Unity, are two examples. No we do not wear our dress, Class A, Field Uniform to everything. We have a Class B or Utility uniform we wear to do work, summer events, etc. Yes, my baseball teams wore a practice uniform to practice. Yes, football players wear a practice uniform, as do soccer and lacrosse. Not sure where you are going with this other than oppose my post. Never did I say I would send anyone home if they didn't wear a uniform. I frankly, am offended you would even suggest that I did
  10. Sorry but I was a baseball coach and now a Scoutmaster. In BSA, we wear a uniform for a reason. If one of my players showed up not in his baseball uniform then you dint play. My question to the people pushing back on the uniform is this. Would you show up at your Softball, baseball, soccer, football, lacrosse, hockey game wearing jeans and a T-Shirt and expect to play? No, why? Because it doesn't fit to the activity. We wear a uniform,. If you don't want to wear one, don't join.
  11. This is the concern I posted on another discussion thread and I can't tell you how many times I was slapped on the nose with the newspaper. I do hope all the talk of "Eagle, Eagle, Eagle" is just the initial excitement of the girl program but I fear it is not. Most of these girls have not earned Scout or Tenderfoot yet but we are talking about Eagle. I was at our Troop Shed recently which is at our CO location on a Friday evening. They have a large property with a Pavilion and field where they let Scouts camp for free. Our lone girl Troop in the District was going to camp there that
  12. Not to be a downer here but one thing I don't hear anyone saying is that not everyone earns the Eagle Rank. I get the feeling that people are walking in thinking that every girl is going to earn eagle. Stats show that only 4 of every 100 Scouts earn Eagle. My Troop has been around since 1970 and has produced 82 Eagle Scouts. I have 23 Scouts in my Troop and it is hard enough to get the these guys the positions of Rank each year. I would recommend teaching the Program so they learn the skills and not be so worried about getting badges. Those will come but they need to do the work and learn
  13. Agree. Our Troop is in the process of buying a new trailer. Our current 1996 6x12 trailer is too heavy for everyone but me and my vehicle to pull. We are looking to sell it and use some of the money to buy a new one. They are so much lighter and easier to pull. I have been eating the cost to rent a trailer for our recent campouts. The easier you make it for volunteers to help, the more volunteers will help.
  14. Case in point. I just received this email with this news letter advertisement. Decisions like this are the reason boys and families are leaving the program. They are making exceptions for allowing girls to go to the World Scout Jamboree but not the boys. I understand wanting to get the most participation but you can't make exceptions for one group and not allow the other the same exception. This will open the door for questions to be asked and other exceptions to be made elsewhere and then where does it stop. There's a lot happening in mid-April 2019! Share your favor
  15. I completely agree with you. I have two young men that earned their Eagle Badges and one aged out in December and the other in January and a third that will age out in June. The two Eagles no longer attend meetings and have no interest in Scouts due to not being able to serve in a meaningful position. Both served me well teaching Scouts and were respected by the Scouts and I am losing a great wealth of knowledge due to this new policy. Funny how they are mature enough to serve in the military but not to be an ASM with BSA. Sad times. Sadly, I do not see BSA Membership increasing. I
  16. I guess my question would be regarding the equipment issue is what would a new Troop have done say three years ago if they were just starting out? My Troop donated stoves, tents, pots, pans, utensils, water jugs, chairs, coolers, propane tanks to the local girl troop in our area. I personally don't know what would have happened a few years ago if it was a boy Troop. I would assume that other Troops in the area would try to help out. While I am not completely on board with the girl Troop issue, I do want them be successful. I think it could have been handled better.
  17. You do realize the UC is assigned to the unit by the District Commissioner and District right? Are you really saying you would have a volunteer "Removed" for trespassing for doing their "Volunteer" job? It is the UC's job to ensure the program is being delivered properly. It is the Unit Commissioner's job to conduct a Detailed Unit Assessment annually which covers administration of the program. I'm not sure where you got your impression of what a UC does but I believe you have been misinformed. A good UC would show up unannounced to see how the Unit actually operates. I believe the
  18. I really wish we could stop picking posts apart. Yes you are correct that fire is not needed for Whipping a rope but the requirement says "Whipping and Fusing" a rope. Which they apparently did not do but got signed off on, which is what this Commissioner's concern was. I'm not here to argue the fine points. I am not here to be picked apart from a discussion I had with another Commissioner because I did not pick apart his visit with a Troop. I come here to get advice from long time Scouters who might have had the same type of situation in their Scouting and learn something possibly. Latel
  19. Update: Meeting was approximately three hours. Seven scouts, none above 13, two were Webelos that did not earn AOL. UC did not see any Patrol voting or Patrol decisions occur but he arrived about 15 minutes late to the meeting. He did have an interesting that three Scouts did not even have their handbooks at the meeting. No flags to be seen and did not conduct a closing ceremony. Have a Scoutmaster and one Assistant Scoutmaster. Conferences lasted about five minutes each. They were only instructed how to "Whip and fuse a rope" but did not actually do it due to having fire or flame insi
  20. Looks like according to TAHAWK and BSA's Guide to Safe Scouting and our District and Council Executive, I was correct that Council should have been notified.
  21. So I was asked for some advice by a "new" unit Commissioner of a new (edited by a mod) Scouts BSA troop of girls Unit about Advancement. It appears that an entire Troop earned the Scout Rank Badge the first day they were in existence. I find it hard to believe that an entire Troop were able to complete ALL the Scout requirements in one day. Am I behind the times or being too naive about signing off on requirements. I am a Scoutmaster and can't for the life of me see how anyone can earn the Scout Rank in one day.
  22. No water under the bridge. I am disappointed that same members are allowed to distort facts and give advice contrary to BSA Policy and no one corrects them. You @RememberSchiff of all people that I have followed for years always were a down the middle Scouter that I could always look to see how "You" did it for good direction. Now you are a moderator that seems to blow things off and go "Whatever" when it comes to issues that might be "sensitive". This site was a great place for Scouters to come to for advice and ideas, now it is a place for people to air their Political views and Personal i
  23. My apologies to all that I was not crystal clear in the fact that we were all talking about a scout being "Suspended" and having his "Membership" revoked which is exactly what happened to this scout so let's not split hairs. Yes according our Council Executive, you MUST report ANY Discipinary Decision that concludes in a Scout being suspended. So YES, I was right in the fact that it should have been reported to the Camp, District and Council. As a Unit Commissioner, if I found out this happened without it being reported, there would be a problem. So @David CO, I hope you don't get caught i
  24. Like it or not, this is where we are at now. I personally am a Patriot, veteran, 30 year Federal Employee that loves his country. God, Country and Family was one reason I joined Scouts many years ago. I am sickened by all the disrespect we as a country show our country now. One of the most important things I make sure we do in our Troop is show respect for the Flag and Country. Every quarter we conduct a Flag Retirement Ceremony and properly retire them with a solemn ceremony and each flag is retired being carried by two scouts and saluted while "retired". I am not sure how to react to a S
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