I get your pain AnotherGuy- I am an avid outdoorsman, and a DL and a LNT Trainer. You can only make recommendation, and hope you have some followers. So parents are not ready for real backcounty camping, hell even some Boy Scouts aren't ready. In saying that if you are wanting to have those moments with your son don't wait for the pack to catch up with you. Do it yourself.
I am taking myself and Web1 son on a 12 miler, do you know I couldn't get one Boy Scout to participate.