Brewmeister

Kudu, you keep undercutting your own argument with your examples and analogies. "To take care of themselves and others."

"Those of us inside the program usually would like Eagle Scouts to be the perfect shining example of All Things Scouting. We sometimes forget it is really a journey from ackward middle schooler to mature young man." True words indeed.

Like I said it depends on the what is meant by "work with," which has not been spelled out by the OP. The scoutmaster is responsible for providing training to the patrol leaders, whether via troop leadership skills training or a matter of routine diligence. It could be simply that he is delegating some of that to ASMs he trusts for matters of schedule, etc. If he is asking adults to be de facto "Den Leaders" that is another matter.

Another Lazarus thread….

Very, very carefully

It really depends on what "work with" means.

It is not an analogy. The distain with which most boys hold schoolwork Scouting is literal, not figurative. Simply put, we can destroy any sport by doing to it what Merit Badges and "leadership skills" do to Scouting. All we need is a government-imposed monopoly. What modern Republicans call "socialism." That is exactly wrong. Period. Ask any parent why their son participates in sports. You will get idealistic reasons similar to your so-called "purpose of Scouting" (teamwork, sportsmanship, exercise, sharpness of mind, mental strength; emotional, psychological,

You can't possibly mean Scouting as it was understood by Baden-Powell: Proficiency Badges that measure a Scout's current proficiency in Boy Scout skills only? Bad idea! That would attract boys who like camping, in the same way that basketball teams attract boys who like basketball, baseball teams attract boys who like baseball, football teams attract boys who like football, and soccer teams attract boys who like soccer. The Merit Badge system is designed for adults with a marginal interest in Cub Scout outdoor skills for teens, but seek to make up for the shortcomings of the pu

GM, It says right in the document that you posted that units do not need to file a tax return.

The fault lies in the people, not in the program. There are police officers, teachers, religious leaders, and lots of other people in professions that require far more training than earning the Eagle rank who commit immoral or illegal acts. Becoming an Eagle does not make somebody more than human.

First off, thanks for reminding me why boy scouts is so much more enjoyable than cub scouts... I suggest letting them run with it, with a few parameters. As WDL I told the boys they had to come up with a story--not just a big epic battle with puppets hitting each other. So it needed a beginning, a middle, and an ending. Then create characters and puppets to match. Rehearse the story and put on the show. It worked out pretty well.

Not sure what's worse; drinking your own pee or drinking snake blood like I saw him doing on a show last night. I hope to never find out the answer.

Hennessey is having their winter sale where you can get a free "Cub" model with the purchase of a regular hammock. http://hennessyhammock.com

It goes back to the whole "Den Mother" thing. I agree with Stosh's assessment, and unfortunately it has tended to keep the CS program rooted in arts-and-crafts rather than the outdoors.

Funny you should try to call me out on this basement since you were the first one to trot out the "it doesn't smell right" criticism, yet again. Without fail you are the first person to start chucking rocks the minute someone who you don't know, or some situation you couldn't have any way of knowing, doesn't live up to the standards of the perfect program that apparently only you can run. Frankly I'm sick and tired of reading your drivel that rarely, if ever, adds anything to the discussion, and from here on out you're just going to go on the old ignore list with the other knuckleheads so your

Why is it that any time some boy achieves something exceptional, there are so many that come out of the woodwork on this board and claim that something must be fishy even though they know absolutely nothing about the situation? There are plenty of stories to be found about exceptional children achieving remarkable things in other endeavors…amazing athletes…genius boys and girls who are attending college when their age-peers are in middle school. Some people are just exceptional or achieve exceptional things. All you folks looking down your noses from a position of ignoran

Except the objection to cigarettes has nothing to do with addiction, just more lifestyle control. But we're getting off topic.

Interesting point. Now consider that both alcohol and tobacco are (for the time being) legal.... Of course not all tobacco is created equal, and the same folks clamoring to legalize M-J have a conniption if you light up a Camel.

Totally agree. Well, "funniest" isn't the word I would use, but yeah, definitely.

This is not a problem. In my area it is a common fundraising practice for scout units (troops and packs) to run concession stands at professional sporting venues, including "beer only" stands, where the sporting team gives the units a cut of the proceeds.

It means the takers outweigh the makers among those who voted in those elections. Next question.

Those don't look like the "methods which were in common use" in 1916...

I think that's the best of both possible worlds. Parents aren't around to hover but are close by if johnnie needs to go home. I've always found that cubs are much better behaved without parents around and look up to the older scouts.

Well, a cat and a dog are both mammals, so there you go. Same thing.

This has really been the plan all along. Simply wreck the health insurance system and say "See, the private sector doesn't work! We need the gub'mint to run it all!"