T2Eagle

Does anyone have a link to a good map of the Jamboree? I can get one on my phone but the scale makes it difficult. The so called maps on the jambo web site are useless.

I'm an ASM for our contingent, I got this forwarded from someone further up the food chain. We sent it out to everyone in the Jambo troop. Interestingly neither my son nor I received the original screwed up e-mail. My guess about the actual Jambo is that there will be lots of hiccups but they'll feed us and the volunteers will make the programs work. They have been asking anyone with a contingent, like myself, to volunteer in program areas, so I'm sure they're a little short of help.

BD, I received this e-mail earlier, it looks like it's just a screw up not a problem with your medical. "An email went out last night to jamboree participants referencing their medical forms being incomplete. The email was incorrect and is causing a lot of participants and their families undue stress and worry. IDG is working to send out an email right now asking everyone to disregard the email that was sent. If anyone contacts you about this email, please extend our sincerest apologies for the confusion and ask them to disregard. If someone should have any questions about their

I understand why people are upset about this as an idea. I don't understand why people think that anything in their unit is going to need to change, or be decided, or occur at all. I'm guessing that the majority of the people on this board have sons of scouting age. When was the last time anyone met the parent of a son your age who was gay? There are actually very very very few of them. When was the last time that anyone here even had a conversation in a social setting with someone you knew to be gay? What makes you believe that you will, in anything like the predictable near future

"So what national pressure is there on Catholic churches to accept Gay priests? or even members?" It's a complex issue, but there are already openly gay priests and gay members of the Catholic faith. Most Catholic high schools have experience with gay students and programs in place to ensure that they are treated with dignity and respect. What they absolutely do not do is summarily dismiss them or try to "cure" them. In the still very unlikely event that you have a scout admit he is gay, and if you are in a Catholic sponsored unit (or even if you're not), the local Catholic

Relax. I dont think you will need to do anything, or decide anything, probably ever. There is not a long line of gay adults who have been sitting around just waiting to queue up to volunteer to be scout leaders. Nor is there a long line of gay male high school students waiting to come out publicly to their peers and then become Boy Scouts. Who are your scouts now? Where do your leaders come from now? Thats who you will have tomorrow and in the future. If you are like most units your leaders are the parents of your scouts. A quick search turns up a figure that less than of one

JoeBob, You pose good questions and I'll have to give some thought before I can answer. Your troop sounds similar to mine and I struggle with the same questions. But I think it's also important to ask yourself what their peers are doing while your boys are "caving, climbing (indoors), rafting, snow skiing, zip-lines, water skiing/tubing, shooting (rifle and shotgun), Camporee, bicycling, summer camp, canoeing, and one backpacking trip." The answer is probably playing video games and participating in entirely adult directed activities. Your scouts could probably get where you want

I agree with Beav that this challenges good representational democracy regardless of which party you support, and is an evil committed by both parties when ever they get a chance. Additionally, better technology and demographic changes semm to be exacerbating the problem. So, without regard to this past election, would someone like to defend gerrymandering? Like Sentinel, I live in Ohio, and the ballot measure that we had was designed to specifically combat this practice, but it not only lost, it was trounced, 70 -- 30! And I don't understand that outcome at all. In case anyone just

I don't think you need a rule or set of guidelines or having all the den leaders speak to everyone. You need to talk to the idiot parents and son who did this. He shouldn't have had it, he shouldn't have shot it at anyone, he's never allowed to bring it again, and that's all there is to it. Probably everybody else in your Pack has enough sense to not let their son bring a wrist rocket to a scout event, let alone let them shoot it at anyone. So there's no reason to chastise everyone or come up with a set of rules or guidelines. Keep it simple, solve the problem you have --- this kid, t

Before you throw in the towel you should know that football thing isn't really so great right now --- just ask anyone from Wisconsin.

I'll play along with this. First, congrats to your son. Second, we had our troop COH last night, only two scouts in the troop weren't in attendance, both called ahead of time with good reasons. SPL ran the COH, which was only the second or third time that's happened recently so we're still making progress on the boy led path. After the COH we had troop elections, at the last PLC the scouts decided to go to mixed age patrols. They formed one Venture patrol with about a half dozen senior guys and then two regular patrols of 11 each. Had one of my 16 year olds step up and get himsel

Where's the smear in this article? I don't see anything that's not factually reported. And what's your definition of "did NOTHING wrong?" In 1979 in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania a 30 year old man grabbing the buttocks and crotch of a 14 year old boy was committing a felony punishable by a long prison term. The Scout Executive at the time must have at least sort of believed it or why else would he have forced the guy to resign. It's true the SE didn't himself break the law by not reporting it. But I have seen posters on this board argue we should call the cops on our own scouts fo

Yah, hmmm as some say. I read this article, and if its a hatchet job the reporter needs to lose a couple corners off his Tote n Chip. As a piece of journalism its not too bad for a small market paper. They took a national story and dug deep enough to come up with some more local angles, and then did some decent foot work on that. Unless you think its somehow just wrong to be writing about this at all, there doesnt seem to be anything untoward about the idea for the piece. As near as I can tell theres nothing in the story that can be factually disputed, and I think theres less

My first thought when I saw this announcement was to go thank our Council exec board for keeping us out of the madness in the face of some pretty intense pressure from above to join in. My second thought was how patronizing the announcement was. There's no real explanation or justification given for any of the changes; just a pat on the head and a cheery voiced "trust us" for what someone else described as the red-jacketed rabble. I'm willing to believe that some consolidation of camps was inevitable given all the challenges faced, but where is the information. Which of these camps

I have spent ALOT of time on tents the last couple years and learned more about them than anyone not in the business would want to know. Our troop has a barn full of equipment accumulated over the decades and we have one of everything, most of it with some sort of note like "broken zipper", "ripped fly", "missing pole", etc. We have several of the Timberline 4s, and although a nice quality tent, I agree they're heavy and a pain for the younger guys to put up. There's a reason virtually everyone else has gone to some variation of the dome style. We have a pile of the WAL-MART/Dick

"There can be only one" Do you mean Tiggers or immortal beings who go around chopping each other's heads off?

You know, if one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony, they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them. And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

I remember one side was clearly winning the argument and changing minds on the other side.

"Undertall" -- I like it, I knew all along it was my height not my wieght that was my problem.

Stosh, Have you ever actually known anyone who was receiving welfare and told you they were proud of it? If you did, do you really think they were the norm and not an anecdotal outlier? Ive only known a couple of people who received welfare, in both cases it was because of a catastrophic event in their family, one was abandonment by the husband/father/breadwinner the other was a terrible illness to same. In both cases the adults involved hated it but did it to feed their kids. Ive known more people who collected unemployment, including some very recently, and all equally hated it and

I was astounded again. Despite a troop swim in the lake, and despite a mandatory shower on Wednesday, parent night, and despite having to put on a uniform shirt every night for dinner and retreat, one of my co-leaders noticed on Thursday that one of my scouts had been wearing the same t-shirt all week. It was a troop t-shirt and so it wasn't one that would catch the eye. The scout assured us he had been changing his socks and underwear daily -- just not his shirt. I didn't bother asking why because I figured no explanation would really make me any wiser.

E61, Wasn't it the same problem with socks a couple years ago? We have at least one troop swim during the week and we insist every scout take a shower on Wednesday on clean stuff at least -- family night. Hard to see how they would end up not putting on at least one clean pair, but scouts never cease to astound.

E61, or anyone else who could answer, Are all those travel teams a part of LL? I'm not sure that around here even the non-travel rec. teams are officially LL. When I was that age you played LL, and then after the regular season if you were an All-Star you became part of a team representing your town that, if you continued to win, could theoretically end up in the LL World Series in Mechanicsburg. I don't think any team around here, travel or not, is part of that system.

JMHawkins, I have never been able to successfully spin off a thread, so if anyone else can please do so, for now Ill continue the discussion here, it is a worthwhile discussion. There are two parts Id give in answer to your concern. First your analogy isnt complete and needs to be expanded to fully see what the process looks like. And second, our judicial system, like all the other parts of our democracy, is, paraphrasing Churchill, the worst form of a judicial system, except all the others that have have been tried. On your analogy, if you ever have the misfortune of having t

"The feeding could have been easily accomplished either before or after the BOR." Schedule a newborn's feeding, I wish I had thought of that when my kids were that age. Were you deployed overseas when your kids were newborns? Because I can assure you that breast fed, previously pumped breast milk in a bottle, or formula, whatever it was my kids wanted they were clear that when they wanted it was NOW -- not earlier, not later, NOW. Maybe I should have tried scheduling when it came out the other end too.