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Spiney Norman

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  1. The issue we have with the Wisconsin parks is that they charge a $11+ fee per car, per DAY, plus the camping fees. That gets pretty pricey for drivers at $20-30 per weekend. The resident fee is less and you can buy a sticker good for the year at reduced rates, but we don't always camp beyond the Cheddar Curtain that oftrn.. We have been able to utilise the Illinois state parks and find that we can usually spread our patrols out far enough to keep the patrol areas distinct. Some of our favorites are Rock Cut in Rockford, White Pines in Oregon, IL and Starved Rock has a fairly large youth area.
  2. Now if we can just get them to get a program together for us at that level, oh I don't know like what we already have in Venturing. What is so hard about this?
  3. As a MB counselor I used to rely heavily on those worksheets. I never required them but would steer scouts to get hold of and use them. It seemed a way to help them get the requirements done quicker and with less fuss. Full disclosure I am a counselor for Family Life, Communications and Personal Management. The subject matter can be pretty dry and some of it does seem like schoolwork. What I found over time is that their mastery of the subject matter began to slip until it almost became a fill in the blank type situation. I've since changed my focus, required that the scout get hold of th
  4. I was just looking at the "20 skills that are dying out" thread and thought to myself, yes; a lot of these skills are dying out, but what about the technology skills young people have nowadays that we couldn't even imagine. Are IT skills a replacement for those or rather an addition to the list of things a well rounded person needs to know? I like to think myself fairly computer literate, but still find myself asking those 30 something adults in my troop how to solve some of my trickier IT issues. To many of them it is just second nature.
  5. I am looking in to some different high adventure trips for 2015 and came across this place. Anyone have any experience paddling this river? From the NPS website it looks to be rife with multi-day possibilities.
  6. Our council tells us the cost for one scout is $260. The will accept any donation and are happy to have it. I was corralled to do a few presentations this year and it is decidedly not a high pressure pitch. You do get a special FOS council patch if yoou donate the asked for donation though.
  7. I have den chiefs placed with our feeder pack. Sometimes 2 to 3 per den, but then they have 10-23 boys per den and that's a different story, and these boys earn their chops. Firstly they are placed for the cub scouting year, many go on to staff summer day camp, and most continue on for 2 years or more. These boys get great exposure to leading a group and receive fantastic support and mentoring from the den leaders. We truly do have a really good pack! Every Den Chief is expected to complete the training and all do. These are the boys who become our best PL's. I know of no restriction o
  8. I have a just converted to hammock camping in the last year or so. They work really great for backpacking and when you are moving each day or even for a day or two plop camp when you are travelling light. The cold can be an issue but I have taken to using my big agnes thermal air mattress below me for insulation. I have found that even at 50F and below you need insulation below you to be truly warm and comfortable. I spent my week at summer camp in the hammock and rigged up a backpacking fly to act as an additional roof and also as a privacy screen of sorts. Summer camp means I pack a lot of
  9. We are actually a merged council already. About 15-20 years ago, we were merged with a smaller council. Council kept both camps, one dining hall and one patrol based. both are located a good 3-4 hour drive from council. council also recently sold off their 'close in' camp ( a 40 minute drive) and partnered with an adjacent council in developing a cub scout focused camp about an hour away. The partnership is working out well and the camp is always busy. Not so much can be said for the summer camps. Both are not well attended and have what I have heard are weak programs. The scuttlebutt is t
  10. What a great idea.I'm with you on this but good luck selling this to council let alone parents. We have all been trained to look upon advancement and MB's as a gauge of a troop or program's success. This is a lie, the true measure of success is more subtle and harder to gauge. Sometimes you may not see it for months or years. I once spent a few days at a camp in northern Wisconsin near Rhinelander after having to get off Lake Superior because of weather. This was a full blown, high energy, high program dining hall camp. Everything was on a BIG scale. Kids were encouraged to bring thei
  11. After our CE retired after 18 years and several changes on the board we were informed via an on-line post from our Council President that their charter is in a provisional status. We are a small council with 1 too many summer camps, two total, that between the both of them are open only 5 weeks. Anybody ever been through this? what can we expect. I've heard from some folks on the inside that a merger is in the works.
  12. While TLT is not required for NYLT it is part of the ILST/NYLT/Nayle continuum. NYLT covers a lot of material quickly, I would think sending a scout that is not familiar with some of the concepts and could inhibit how much they retain. Take a look at the new ILST course. It may just change your mind...................
  13. I had a short conversation with the course director for NYLT in our council last night. He seemed to be very surprised that we conducted ILST/TLT in our troop and had been doing so for years. So here's my question, I'm trying to get an idea of where folks are at on this subject. Oh, sure! let's try this poll option.
  14. Godspeed, Old Grey Eagle, your sage advice and level headed attitude will be surely missed.
  15. Seems like our troops ran a similar path. we rewrote the old TLT and amazingly it come out a lot like the new curriculum. Though in my opinion it looks like they took a lot of the practical games and exercises from the old JLT video course and added them in to the theory heavy TLT. I do like the new course though and we too have added an entire session just on meal planning and cooking. I like your idea of a cook off. Alos, have you documented your communication module. It looks interesting and if you could forward me a copy I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Ken/Spiney Norman
  16. Hi Matt, I can send you the documnets we use to run the course. As for the nuts and bolts of operation the Patrol Leaders guide is a good resource. I also have older experienced scouts present this portion. Send me your e-mail addy to ken_knasiak@hotmail.com and I will forward you the attachment Spiney Norman
  17. I handle the ILST(TLT) for our troop. Over the course of the last 4-5 years the course has progressed both by my individual efforts and the updated training material published by national. One of my WB ticket items was to take the current ILST and tailor it for our troop and present it. Currently we have a syllabus which takes 4-5 weeks of one hour meetings culminating in a weekend campout for those participating in the year's course. Every year we have more and more scouts return to help out with the program after they have "finished" the course. we have added a lot of practical stuff not i
  18. We do a lot of the same things from year to year. People get attached to doing things the same way, including both adults and scouts. We do try and mix things up, such as alternating a canoe campout with a bike ride campout every other year. We, and I mean the PLC and the Committee try to do something new every year. Sometimes it's a success, sometimes not. The fun/well attended events will be repeated while the others are reviewd and either filed away or jettisoned. I will say though that too much interaction between a pack and a troop isn't such a good thing. I think it dilutes the cac
  19. Would it be possible to put a button to advanc/changee pages at the bottom of the page as well as the top, where it is now? It would make for a much smoother experiencei when reading through topics that are several pages long.
  20. Welcome aboard. I'm from Des Plaineds Valley, just next door. Perhaps we'll meetup somtime at the Adventure Camp In Rochelle. (FYI for those not from around here, Three Fires and DPVC co own the local CubScout camp)
  21. I'm not sure if you're serious about that statement but good job pushing something to a ridiculous conclusion.
  22. How very disappointing that they would delay this decision; whichever way it was going to go. Shame on the board for not taking the time to get the feedback from their councils and major partners before creating such a kerfuffle.
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