SctDad

I remember one time that I found a version of taps that included the sign language to the song. I will try to find it and post a link if I can. I think it is pretty cool, because it uses the words to taps

OK sorry folks. I forgot to mention that this was a Cub Scout Campout There are some other things that I think should be brought into light so you know whre I am coming from We are going on a Pack Overnighter. We are going to our Council Scout Reservation. We have reservations made for a campsite along with adirondacks (shelters) incase of inclement weather. It is a short walk to the waterfront, where we can partake in Fishing activities. It is a large moving river so we won't be able to go boating. There is a seabase nearby that has a long dock at it and I think that will be one of the fishing spots. THere are bathroom facilities available to us. there is plenty of water. There is a fire ring. Meals are planned as a pack meal. I have one boy who doesn't eat meat so his father will be bringing their own food for the entree's So what I am gathering is that I should ask for volunteers for getting the tasks done and I will probably get all of them done easily. I will be going to the school here in town and seeing if I can get some large cans for the fire buckets. The only other things that we have to do is grocery shopping and get the utensils for serving and cooking. Plus we need to find a griddle. Menu Sat Lunch - PB&J, Chips Sat Dinner - Chili, Rolls (Reflector overn try) Smores Sun Breakfast - Pancakes, Sausage Lunch - Sandwiches Does that help everyone?

The variation that I heard to "My Bonnie" was one that said My Body lies under the Ocean My Body lies under the see My body lies under the ocean So Dredge up my body for me Dredge up, Dredge up, Oh dredge up my body for me And so on, you get the point I will see what others I can find

I looked over this thread quickly so if I repeat something then please excuse me. Just as a little side note of qualifications, I have been a medic with the Army for 10 years and have been working in the civilian sector as and EMT - I for 7. Currently going through Paramedic school Not everyone who is allergic to something (we will say bees for this example) will so allergic reactions the first time. There is a histamine response that must be triggered. Sometimes this does not happen til the second time they get stung. I carry an Epi-pen for some of my adults. There are 2 different types of epi-pens. The big yellow one for adults and there is an Epi-Jr for pediatrics (Anyone under the age of 18) That is how the national registry explains it. If they have had previous reactions to bee stings then they should have one with them. THat is something that we as leaders need to be checking on. Yes some of the MD's may give you a RX for this but it is their license that is on the line, just as it is if they the Med Director for EMS. As for the benadryl. THat is mostly for mild reactions and skin reactions. will not help as much with anaphylaxis due to bee sting. If you have anymore questions, please feel free to contact me. I will help with what I can.

Here is one suggestion. Maybe if you could talk to a local National Guard Medical unit, you might ask if you could borrow a bunch of litters from them. Them you could make a task of it. 5 boy teams. All about the same size, and have one act as the victim and the other 4 carry him between stations. when get ready to move to the next have then switch out. Or if you don't have that resource, make litters from poles and blankets. Just a thought.

could you post the name of the workbooks that you got from FEMA. I was trying to see if I could find it and I am having some technical difficulties

I guess I will just have to wait until I too can get my BALOO training. We have one who is Baloo trained. He is going. But he is also letting me do a lot of the planning and he is there to help if needed. I ask questions here because I hope that with all the wisdom that my fellow scouters have, someone can guide me along the way until my baloo training this summer. I have been asking for help and suggestions with camp items. And almost everytime I do someone mentions that the baloo person needs to do it or I need to get my baloo training. I know this but I am trying to get these things done myself as a learning tool and help take some of the planning issues off of the CM. Sorry about the rant but sometimes I am coming here to ask for advise and help.

Shoulda saw that one coming.

"Perhaps we should petition our legislators to pass a law requiring all marshmallows to be non-flammable?" I will admit, I laughed. But if really want to get down to it, all solids burn if heated enough.

I have not looked into the new scout handbook too much. There are a few things that I dod notice though. I noticed that the pages were of the new "write in the rain" style. I can say that my scout years edition (10th) had the covers, covered in scotch tape so that they would hold up in the wet weather. Yes the book itself is also slightly thicker from the pages swelling up when they got wet. But this was a good book. I also remember the one before that that had a norman rockwell pic on the front with the boyscouts pointing across the river. Here is another question. Do they still have the Boy Scout requirements book. I found mine and was wondering if they still did this. I also have my old Junior leader Handbook, Religious emblem Handbook, and OA handbook. Found them when I found a box with my scouting stuff init.

Like I said in another post. When reviewing what you are doing, ask your self this. "Is this stupid and will this get someone hurt?" If you have to ask this then it is probably stupid. But if it isn't and you can say that the chances of getting hurt are low, and this would be something that any other right-minded adult would allow thier boys to do, then it probably is OK. Lets use common sense. Hang gliding is not a Cub Sport. Base Jumping is not a scout sport. But to let cubs cook on an open fire with assistance and close supervision, (As the other topic was about) that could be considered acceptable. I think that some people are getting too tied up in the EXACT rules and forgetting about common sense Please excuse me if this offends you, I have no intention about doing that. YiS SctDad

I have not referenced any materials, so what I say is no law. I would expect that if you were roasting marshmallows with your cubs, someone would be there if there was one that burst into flames. Worst case, let it drop into the fire and get another. S'mores are one thing that my Cubs are looking foward to. It just takes some common sense to keep people from getting hurt and tents from getting damaged. If you are able to fling a flaming marshmallow into a tent, then you may want to look at how close your tents are to the campfire. These are just some things that I can see. If your leadership is watching then there should be no problems. As for the G2SS, it is a guide. I was once told this in reference to using it. It is a guide to help you decide on the activities for the youth. Yes it is a great guideline, but there are certain things that you have to use your brain for. One way that I think of it is this. If someone gets hurt, can I say that it was an unpreventable accident and will the liability insurance cover it. Or simply put, if I have to ask is this stupid and can some one get hurt, then I probably should not be doing it. I work in EMS and see these things every day. These are my opinions and I hope they do not offend anyone. If you have a question about this post please feel free to contact me.

I am sorry I forgot to include that this was a Cub Scout Pack overnighter. I just know that there are many who have read a lot of my posts and know that part about me so far, but for those who have given suggetions, I will try them. I think I will try to give assignments based on the ages of the boys and have parent participation. Maybe that will work

Does anyone out there have suggestions for how to break down campsite duties. We are going on an overnight trip and I was wondering what would be the best way to get everyone involved with campsite responsibilities. Any Help???

I was thinking about when I was a scout and was wondering something. Do your scouts still teach the long lost art of snipe hunting to the younger scouts on one of their fisrt campouts. I know that this can be considered a form of hazing in some peoples eyes, but I was just rememberingthe right of passage that I went through when I went snipe hunting. Soes this still happen??

I am posting to admit I missed something when I read the post by ScoutNut. I Missed the word "under" I can see what you are talking about. And I think we were meaning the same thing just talkin in different languages.

GoldWinger I think to say that the War on Terror is not a war is wrong. Iraq is not the only place that we are fighting. There is Afganistan, and the threat that is right here in the US. I know that this is off topic, but to those of us who have fought in the war on terror, we would be hard pressed to call it anything but. On another topic, Good job with the general flag knowledge and why the stripes face foward on Naval ships. YiS SctDad

ScoutNut I think you might be mistaken. THe way that I have been told is these are the requirements Age 7 - Cut and Dry. Must be 7. There is nothing saying that a boy cannot start halfway through the year. Or he Must have completed kindergarten. I know some are going to comment on this. My DE is getting ready to have a round up here in a few weeks for new tigercubs. This will be good so they can attend some of our summertime events with us and get into scouting. Review so you know what I have interpreted and been told Age of 7 or 6 and completed Kindergarten

If you have any doubt, contact the local American Legion and ask for their assistance. They should be glad to help. For those that are wondering why the flags on the military uniforms are backwards, here is the reawson. They are displaying the flag of the advancing military. Meaning when the units are moving foward the flag would naturally have the stripes pointed to the rear. Think of whe a flag is on a car that is going down the road. Here is another question for all of you. Why do the flags on Naval Ships have the stripes pointing to the front of the ship???

Hardwoods are good for fires. So when you are going through the woods, look for something that is hard and dense in material. It will be a little harder to light but once it is going it should provide a good fire. Sometimes the soft woods are OK in that you won't have to go through and wait forever for it to go out and waste good firewood for each fire. Do you catch my drift. Hope this helps. YIS SctDad

Some pirate phrases Pirate Phrases -Aaaarrrrgggghhhh! - exhortation of discontent or disgust -Ahoy! - Hello! -Ahoy, Matey - Hello, my friend! -Ahoy, me Hearties! - the same as saying "Hello, my friends!" -All hand hoay! - comparable to all hands on deck -Avast ye - stop and check this out or pay attention -Aye - yes -Batten down the hatches - put everything away on the ship and tie everything down because a storm is brewing -Bilge-sucking - insult -Blimey! - exhortation of surprise -Blow me down! - expression of shock of disbelief akin to "Holy Crap!" -Blow the man down - command to kill someone -Booty - treasure -Buccaneer - a pirate -Bucko - a buccaneer -Cat O'Nine Tails - a whip with nine strands -Corsair - pirates in the Mediterranean Sea -Crow's nest - small platform atop the mast where the lookout stands -Cutlass - short heavy curved bladed sword used by pirates -Davy Jones' Locker - fabled, mythical place at the bottom of the ocean where the evil spirit of Davy Jones brings sailor and pirates to die -Dead men tell no tales - phrase indicating to leave no survivors -Doubloons - other coins or found in pirate hoards and stashes -Feed the fish - will soon die -Hang 'im from the yardarm - punishment of those captured in battle -Head - the pirate ship's toilet -Heave Ho - give it some muscle and push it -Hempen Halter - a noose for hanging -Hornswaggle - to defraud or cheat out of money or belongings -Jacob's Ladder - the rope ladder one uses to climb aboard a sloop -Jolly Roger - pirate's flag including white skull and crossbones over a black field -Keelhaul - punishment in which a person where dragged underneath the pirate ship from side to side and was lacerated by the barnacles on the vessel -Lad, lass, lassie - a younger person -Landlubber - big, slow clumsy person who doesn't know how to sail -Letters of Marque - letters issue from governments during wartime to privateers endorsing the piracy of another vessel -Man-O-War - pirate's ship outfitted for battle -Me - my -Mizzen - third mast from the bow of the ship on ships that have three or more masts -Old Salt - an experienced sailor -Pieces of eight - coins or found in pirate stashes -Pillage - rob, sack or plunder -Poop deck - the part of the ship farthest to the back, which is usually above the captain's quarters. This is not the bathroom. -Privateer - government-sponsored pirates -Rum - pirate's traditional alcoholic beverage -Run a shot across the bow - warning shot to another vessel's captain -Savvy? - do you understand and do you agree? -Scallywag - mild insult akin to rapscallion or rogue -Scurvy dog - the pirate is talking directly to you with mild insult -Scuttle - to sink a ship -Seadog - old pirate or sailor -Shark bait - will soon join Davy Jones' Locker -Shipshape - cleaned up and under control -Shiver me timbers! - comparable to "Holy Crap!" -Thar she blows! - Whale sighting -Walk the plank - punishment in which person walks off a board jutting over the side of the ship while at sea. The consequence is drowning and a visit to Davy Jones' Locker. -Weigh anchor and hoist the mizzen! - pull up the anchor and the sail and let's get going -Ye - you -Yo Ho Ho - cheerful exhortation to demand attention

Have you heard about the new pirate movie? It?s rated AARRRRGGH! What's a pirate's favorite mode of transportation? A cAARRRRGGH! what's a pirate's favorite letter of the alphabet? arrrr what's a pirate's favorite kind of socks? arrrrgyle what is a pirates favorite study subject? arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt. what's a pirate's second-choice job? an arrrrrrchitect! how much did the pirate pay to get his ears pierced? a buccaneer what's a pirate's favorite kind of cookie? ships ahoy what do you call a pirate that skips class? captain hooky! A pirate walks into a bar and the bartender says, "Hey, I haven't seen you in a while. What happened, you look terrible!" "What do you mean?" the pirate replies, "I'm fine." The bartender says, "But what about that wooden leg? You didn't have that before." "Well," says the pirate, "We were in a battle at sea and a cannon ball hit my leg but the surgeon fixed me up, and I'm fine, really." "Yeah," says the bartender, "But what about that hook? Last time I saw you, you had both hands." "Well," says the pirate, "We were in another battle and we boarded the enemy ship. I was in a sword fight and my hand was cut off but the surgeon fixed me up with this hook, and I feel great, really." "Oh," says the bartender, "What about that eye patch? Last time you were in here you had both eyes." "Well," says the pirate, "One day when we were at sea, some birds were flying over the ship. I looked up, and one of them dropped in my eye." "So?" replied the bartender, "what happened? You couldn't have lost an eye just from some bird droppings!" "Well," says the pirate, "I really wasn't used to the hook yet." why does a pirate's phone go beep beep beep beep beep? because he left it off the hook! What has 8 arms and 8 legs? 8 Pirates! Why do pirates make excellent fishermen? They know how to hook the big ones. Where do pirates find their birds? Parrots Without Partners. Did you hear about the pirate's parrot that fell in love with a duck? The bird kept saying, "Polly wants a quacker". Why couldn't the young pirate see the R-rated movie? There was no parrot-al guidance. Why should pirates work for FedEx? They have the fastest ships in the shipping business. What's it called when a pirate's sloop runs aground? It's ship out of luck. Why don't pirates use a safe deposit box? They put their valuables in Davy Jones' Locker. Who's the pirate's favorite actress? Diane Cannon. Why did the pirate refuse to say, "Aye, Aye, Captain"? Because he's only got one eye. What's the pirate's favorite restaurant? Trick question because it's either Jolly Roger or Long John Silver's. How could the pirate acquire the ship so cheaply? Because it was on sail. Why did the pirate not learn how to bowl? He had a severe hook. Who was the pirate's favorite musician? Carlos Bandana. Why couldn't the pirate stop thinking about sailing? He had ship for brains. What has 12 arms, 12 legs and 12 eyes? A dozen pirates. When boxing, what's a pirate's favorite punch? Left hook. What's a pirate's least favorite animal? Beaver. If Blackbeard played sports who would he play for? Either the Tampa Bay Buccaneers or the Pittsburg Pirates. How does a pirate, wearing a patch, say "yes" to the leader? Eye Eye, Captain. What do you have to watch for when sitting down on a wooden toilet? Long john slivers. What does a pirate put on toast? Jelly Roger. YOu might want to check the rating on these before you use them at camp

I know this is a hit to bring this back up but I am hoping that some others out there will have some more information on this topic to help us with this theme. we will be having a meeting next week and I am just looking for some more help. If you have any ideas for this theme let me know.

I saw one some where that said you coupd do it like this. Prior to building the find, place a fountain style fire works display at the bottom. Use a model rocket igniter in the fuse part and run the wire off to the side out of sight. When the scouts gather, tell them a story about helping a small wood elf and he promised to help you when he had the chance. Then call for him. at this time have another parent off to the side start the rocket igniter and it sould light the fuse. NOTE: Try this at home first, I am still waiting to try it myself to make sure that it works right. Sound like it would work fine but you may want a backup

Here are some Ideas for the food. Remember that they had to eat food that was easy to preserve. Salted meats, hard tack (Biscuits), and things like that. Maybe think about some potatos for a soup. Now after looking they said at some websites that they would drink wine and beer. Well that may not go over too well. Maybe you can have scoutwine. Grape juice or orange juice. Or maybe mix several juices together to amke the GROG. Don't forget the oranges. Check out this link for some pirate jokes. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070626163203AAfob1u I will see what else I can find. Here are some other links http://www.gone-ta-pott.com/Pirate_Food.html http://www.nmm.ac.uk/TudorExploration/NMMHTML/html/on_seas.html http://www.cindyvallar.com/bepirate.html Hope those links help you out(This message has been edited by SctDad)