scoutldr

Well, as i was told by the older scouts before I was tapped-out (yes, TAPPED) in 1968...it stands for "we want women" PS: Welcome to the campfire!

"Be aware that use or storage of an individuals SSN# falls under the federal privacy act. You must take care to insure the information is kept confidential.(ie, no posting of SSN's on troop rosters or phone list ect...)" I realize this thread is ancient, but I have to raise the BS flag ... the above statement is simply not true. The federal Privacy Act only applies to "systems of records" maintained by the Government, not to records maintained by individuals, troops, packs, etc.

My wife's a school nurse...they do it all the time. It's just a paperwork exercise.

Since you already had a physical done, I would ask the office nurse if they could simply transcribe the results onto the new form, sign it and send it back to you. My doc has done that for me in the past...no charge.

I was going to go off on a tirade about "morally straight", until I reviewed the current version of the "Girl Scout Promise" and "Girl Scout Law". Nope...not in there. Never mind.

Thanks for the clarification, srisom. Although I don't agree with some of your assumptions, I understand the context. I don't think the comparison to summer camp is valid...scouts attend Summer camp with their unit, unless they are provisional, in which case they are assigned to another unit. In both cases, 2-deep leadership is required. OA functions are not necessarily attended as a unit...at least in my Lodge. What if the scout has just transferred in and doesn't know anyone, or is attending from out-of-council? The lawyers here can correct me, but I thought the term "guardian" had a legal meaning...like court-ordered custody for a non-parent.

How are we going to fund it??? How about we use the current model...just print more money and let the national debt soar. What's the problem?

If I'm wrong, the former pros here can correct me. You have to understand the Pro motivation. They are given a TAY (total available youth) number for a given school and for all schools across the District. Their only goal during roundup time to get as many of the TAY registered in Scouting as possible. They don't care where or what your unit goals are. They even get extra credit if they ignore your unit and start a new one.

And did Grandpa expect free healthcare, and free education for his kids, conducted in their native language? Did he expect free or nearly free college tuition and other "affirmative action" programs, because he CHOSE to immigrate here?

I think it's a sad state of affairs that a politician can utter two words, and $2 million in donations results to him and his opponent, without regard to their records or platforms. Just proves the stupidity of the American electorate. Perhaps that IS one area where I think the Govt should get involved. Grant each candidate for national office $1 million to run a campaign...no donations allowed. We the People deserve the right to choose the best person for the job...and not limit our choices to the ones with the biggest campaign chest.

Merrowed Edge (also Overedge Stitch, Overlock Stitch or Rolled Edge) - A patch having a protective "molding" of thread all around its edge, often referred to as a "rolled edge" because of its appearance, the original purpose of which was to prevent raveling. Merrowing is an overedge stitch added using a special machine. On loom-made patches, this is performed after a patch has been embroidered and cut; on multihead-made patches, it's done to the pre-made twill "blanks" before they are embroidered. The telltale sign of merrowing is the "pigtail" end that is usually either glued or taped to the back of the patch. Merrowing machines are named after their inventor, Joseph M. Merrow. Although a few patches with merrowing from the 1940s and 1950s have been observed, merrowing of military patches didn't emerge until the 1960s, didn't really "catch on" until the 1970s, and didn't become widespread until the 1980s. Merrowing now seems to be the industry standard, though quite a few are still unmerrowed. It should be noted that because twill doesn't ravel and is often treated, cut-edge patches really don't need merrowing, so nowadays it's usually added because the designer thinks it enhances the looks of the patch. (Definition courtesy of Greg Ogletree) I love Google. - scoutldr

"I have never heard of parents (OA members or not) that drive their son up to camp and just drop them off." Well, that's the way I grew up in OA and the way it's still done. IF we find that the Scout won't be able to attend otherwise, we try to find him a ride. And once they turn 16, they can drive themselves...just like I did.(This message has been edited by scoutldr)

Right. And the plan to circumvent Posse Comitatus is to "build a civilian security force that is at least as well funded and equipped as the US Military." Probably headed by a non-confirmed Security Czar.

Just to be fair, not all illegals are Mexican. How many illegal Canadians walk across the border? I read of one border crossing, unmanned, where there was a little shack with a logbook in it. If you were crossing the border, you were asked to go to the shack and sign the log book...honor system. To be fair...what's good for the Mexicans is good for the Canadians. I traveled to Canada back in June for a professional conference. At customs in the airport, I was given the third degree...where do you live (street address), where are you going, why are you coming here, how long are you staying, what hotel are you staying at, what is the name of your conference, are you bringing any food or liquor? I thought I was going to be arrested for smuggling in a bag of Cheetos in my briefcase. I was also warned ahead of time not to try to access their medical system..."do not go to the Dr...you will not be seen, and if you need to go to the ER, you will need cash in advance or they will not see you." That was the week that the passport laws went into effect and the Canadians were insulted...maybe this was not so subtle retaliation. I expect no less from our Government when people try to enter our country.

No, TWOMORROWS...it can be a WHOLE BLOCK!

"Among three House committees to pass bills for health reform, only one expressly bans federal funding for proving health coverage to illegal immigrants." And that only works until they're granted amnesty. Then they're "legal", aren't they? All of these issues are intertwined, with myriad unintended consequences, but the administration wants us to consider them and approve of them individually.

If I ever get sued, I will be sure to have a lawyer there of MY choosing to represent ME and my interests. The BSA can do what they want.

All together now... God grant me the serenity...

Forget politics...this is what's important. http://tinyurl.com/lf3hkb

Seems to me that "helicopter parents" have infiltrated your Lodge, and they think everyone else should be a helicopter, too. I have never heard of this requirement. At OA functions, such as Ordeals and Fellowships, the Arrowman shows up and checks in...no adult supervision required, other than those who are there also participating as Arrowmen. Yes, if we have scouts "Ordealing", and it was convenient for us, we would show up and support him...but it wasn't considered "required". As I have said many times before, OA is not considered a "Unit" activity, but an individual activity...like earning Merit Badges...(no, wait..bad example). That's one of the things I thought was cool about the OA...we were treated like mature Scouts (until proven otherwise) ..."just go find a place to set up your tent...the waterfront is off limits...dinner is at 6 pm and campfire is at 8. Have fun!" Second thought: Are sure that "guardian" is not being used as a synonym for "Buddy" (as in "buddy system")?(This message has been edited by scoutldr)

I believe that NCS qualified leaders are required for Camp accreditation. I think it has more to do with that than legal liability. My financial advisor told me to get a personal liability umbrella policy. I got it through State Farm for a couple hundred dollars a year. My answer would have been, "sorry...I can't afford two weeks off from work, so i guess I can't help". End of discussion.

No...I think it's accurate to characterize someone as a "liar" if it is indeed true that they lied. Maybe not polite, but accurate. I'm not saying that the "Gentleman" from South Carolina was accurate in his characterization of the President on that particular issue. I do not believe that the Democrat health plan intentionally includes illegal aliens...yet.

Poor manners, yes. But is it "name calling" if it's true? I can hear Robert Gibbs now..."Well what the President MEANT to say during the debate with Mrs. Clinton was, "enrollment in health insurance WILL be mandatory for all citizens and those who don't will be fined up to $3800 by the IRS."

Well in that context, I have heard of it for Cub camping. But not for Boy Scouts. OA is not a unit activity. At least in my Lodge, Arrowmen and Candidates do not need an adult "guardian"...it is assumed their behavior and skills are beyond that. When he arrives and checks in, he will be assigned to a group who will have an Arrowman "guide" to stay with them for the weekend. Beyond that, I don't know what they want. Adults who are not Arrowmen or Candidates are generally not invited, however any parent who wants to "observe" may do so. One reason may be to ensure that the Scout departs the event with an approved adult, and not an estranged spouse or other adult who does not have custody. Just guessing.(This message has been edited by scoutldr)

On the continuum of boorishness, I guess it's better than being callled an "a-h" by a Presidential Czar.