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I think it's great that they are doing it! We have 3 schools within a 5 mile ( or so ) stretch. We have 3 different packs within a 1/2 mile drive, and two more that are 1 1/2 miles away and 7 miles away from our pack. All the boys attend the same 3 schools. These 3 schools serve my side of the county which is fairly rural in nature. So here's why it is great! Because the parents and boys can choose which pack they like. They can choose the one that fits their own personality the best. Each of our 5 packs meet on a different night . That was actually just random and not planned

" when many of our highly dedicated Scouting families who are non-Christian will see no benefit." How so? If they are in the scouting family, then the can and will get that benefit from being in scouting. " I bet there are many non-Christian Scouters who want a similar program for the daughters to join so that they get a great Scouting experience just like the sons." I absolutely agree - there are many families that may want a program like that. Then all the have to do is do the same thing the people who created and founded AHg did: Make up a program that they like.

Still, the biggest thing you have to remember is this: No matter what the officvial guidelines say, what the official statement is, or what it's supposed to be about......it still all comes down to the leaders and their attitude and outlook. A group of racist folks could get together one day and start a cub scout pack or troop. Swaet that they will abide by all BSA rules and regulations, and still have a racist and prejudiced unit. They may be very exclucionary to anybody who does not fit their ideal profile. They may deny it, but would still do it. Same for any other type

Scout's mom, or girlfriend asks: "Does this dress/outfit/pants make my butt look big/fat/ugly? Truth could be any varyation of yes or that the hair isn't a style the scout likes. Maybe the shirt is a color or cut that the scout does not like. Being truthful will only get the scout in trouble! When we were first mnarried, my wife started trying to make new dishes. Soime were great right away, so not so much. When she asked me, they wre alwys - at the very minimum - good. I never told her that it was all I could do to swallow some of them by washing them down. So,

" Are you even going to attempt to keep to the facts of the case? " You mean a news story that has both sides claiming the other was at fault? Where are "the facts" in that? I don't know exactly what happened, but I do have some questions: 1) If Zimmerman wasn' t arested, wy was he handcuffed and taken to the police station by the police? 2) In the video of he being taken to and at the police station, he doesn't appear to have any of the injuries he claims he recieved. What happened to them? 3) If he was a community watch member and patroling like he alwa

Yeah, they should know it already since all of it was a condition of AOL. And for the record, I do not think "Do your best" applies in this case even if AoL is a Cub Scout award. It is an award for being ready and prepared for Boy Scouts. It's a tool for early crossover after you show you know the stuff...not did your best in trying to know your stuff. Don't get me wrong, doing your best is a fine idea, but since doing your best is not a Boy Scout arrangement, then it shouldn't apply to what amounts to an Early pass. So anyways, I know what the joining requirements are

It's very simple: You are now legally an adult no matter how fun and scoutish you are. I wouldn't hold it against BSA either. It's not like they can push the legal age aside or forward or back just because you are in a program they run. What it comes down to is this: Society has become too "I'm gonna sue you! " happy! Doesn't matter what BSA thinks, you think, the scouts in your unit or even what all the other older leaders thing., Get one jerk of a parent with a hair up their butt and they will cause problems. It happens all te time. Remember, we are a society where

Now, you may have noticed that I said I hunt with a fishing pole. Yep! That's because I do not hunt witrh a gun. Never have, probably won't in the future either. But I like to shoot rifles. I like to shoot at targets and test my skill and ability. My targets are either paper targets or cans . Old skunky beer is awesome because you can shake it up and have a great show when you hit your target! I shoot at plain old bull's eyes and I shoot at the ones with the neon indicators too. I have shot animal silhouettes, bland basic human silhouettes, and the detailed evil bad guy

"what does *any* of your rant have to do with the topic of destroying a living entity for fun? " What does your comment of " destroying a linving entity for fun " have to do with thisd thread? Nobody....and I mean nobody said anything about killing a living creature for fun . At least not until you said it, that is. What is the benifit and reward of anything we do? Why build a ship in a bottle? What practical use is it? Cause you feel a sense of accomplishment and learned to be patient, to work in a microcosn, and overcome a challenge. Why build any model

Nah, it was just a joke. The "coffee club patrol".

Not being there, it's hard to say. Not being familiar with an LDS program makes it worse. So, to find a soulution, you first have to understand the problem. In my un educated guess to an issue I have not personally seen in a unit who workd uner a program I do not fully understand.... I'd say that first and foremost, your biggest problem is that the parenmts have not taught these boys any manners, respect or control. Yeah, all boys act up and get hyper every now and then. And mob mentality does happen top young boys too.That's normal and to be expected. But the first th

Seattle... Correct me if I am not understanding you when I say this in a way that might make more sense: Are you suggestiong the CO create a "tag along" program for younger siblins and /or sisters? That makes perfect sense. But saying the pack itself do it is probably asking for either failure or other problems as I do not think the pack has the ability, authority, or power to create a program. The pack is only charged with running a BSA program . The closest a pack could come to haing s tag along den would be during family pack camping. So, maybe your CO starts upm

Actually, I did. I went over it with all the boys at one time, then my son did the review with the other ASM who asked me about waiting on the patches or not. Not making that part clear is my bad. I tend to forget that you guys weren't there to see stuff like that. I do not plan on signing off on anything of my son's unless I have to. The only exception I can think of.....as of right now.....will be the first aid merit badge when the time comes as I am the only registered first aid MBC in my district...which honestly, is really surprising and disappointing to me. But I am

So would this make you cahnge your mind about adult leaders wearing patrrol pathes in a troop? http://insanescouter.org/Assets/Coffee%20Cup%20Patrol%20ClassB.jpg

My opinion, for what it's worth...at least $0.08...or less, if the money is used for scouting or scout related events, then it's okay. That's how our pack does it. But we do not cash out anything. WE will pick up what the scout wants or pay for it for him. Examples rank book, uniform parts, council/district camps and events. Camporees , den go see its and other den activitys. Pack t shirts, pack camping or den camping events ( for Webelos scouts) . If a scout does not have a sleeping bag or tent, we can purchase one for him . I know that some people consider that crossing t

Wait. Am I missing something? I never said, not did I indicate or plan on treating a patrol like a den. I didn't try to use my experience in the pack to justify acting like a den in the troop. I didn't even bring up the initial cub scout references. My question was about camradieri in a brand new patrol who just got signed of on the scout badge at Monday's meeting. This was actually after the troop meeting, so there wouldn't even have been an opportunity to recognize them without the patch. I also indicated that my plan was to go ahead and give them to the boys

Beyond Tigers, we also do not require parents to stay, but I told parents that you must be there the first and last 5 minutes of the meeting time. I did this because some parents would pull up in the parking lot, let the kids out and leave. This would cause a den to sometimes not be able to take advantage of a special event that just came up, or sometimes, our DL's couldn't let parents know about last minute or unexpected changes due to extenuating circumstances. Sometimes a scout forgets to tell mom and dad they are doing a presentation or needs to bring a few dollars for X activit

Gunny, I'm glad you could see where I was going as far as the ideal behind it and not the way the thread started to make it sound like a negative thing. The tone of the responces started to sound like I suggested teaching boys how to take another man down. That was not the point or idea in my suggestion. I just wanted everybody to realize that sniper is not another way of saying shooting people or murder.

Thanks for the replies. I was planning on having the SM hand out the badges to those who have earned it unless any of you gave me a good argument otherwise. The only reason I considered waiting was because I was thinking of patrol camradieri. Even at the den level, we awarded anything earned based on the individual and not as a group..but usually in cubs, the whole den works on something at the same time, so unless you miss a night or really just don't get it - all the cubs (mostly) earned things at the same time. Matter of fact, the SM called me earlier today and I

Okay, I have another question. Tonight, I signed off on 5 out of 6 boys ( in our newest patrol) as earning their scout badge. The one who didn't earn it yet just needs his family to do the family phamplet and he needs to study just a tad more on the parts of the scout badge. He should easily be able to do it next Monday night, but will be out of town on a family trip ( our school spring break). So I went ahead and asked our advancement chair to pick up 6 badges anyways. A little while later, the Sm asks me if I want to go ahead and award the badges to te boys who ear

Well, let me rephrase my "sniping" comment a little bit, By sniper, I do not mean assasin. I mean expert long range shooter. And it's not just about shooting for a kill , but also about a more serious level of control and skill. It gets down to controling your breathing, but doing it so naturally that you don't have to think about it. It's not just pointing a gun at something far away. It's about considering and counting on elevation drop, windage, and where to aim . You don't hold your breath when you shoot, you exhale and relax before squeezing a trigger. Never pul

"Yah, I think this is the principle source of our national neuroses, eh? Most people think that because something is prevalent on the news that it's prevalent in real life. " Not talking National news or something happening in another country. I am talking local news. Used to be a time that gang activity was something that only happened in LA or New Yopk. Now it happens all around us. When I say Us, I mean my county and city. And it is not racist to know that there are neigborhoods that- if you are not the same race/color/ ethnic group - it is in your best interest to stay out o

Well, I don't have an issue with AHg either way, and I'll tell you 2 reasons why: 1) I don't have a daughter, so it's a non issue as that is concerned. 2) Even if my CO charters a AHG unit, it's not like they are going to come to my pack or troop and say: "Hand over your scout handbooks and leaders books because we are re-writting the entire program. My CO has several units there: Pack, troop. crew, GS troop ( and yes, I know they are independant of the CO, but the CO allows them to use facilities and supports them - okay), and a youth group as well as church league soccer and b

Basement, what you describe is not only racist, but flat our arrogant and ignorant. Yeah, I'd have laid into my boys if they had said that. I'd probably bore them, but give them a lesson on American History and explain about who came from where too. But now, if those boys in your group were going to have to travel through the neighborhood that those jerks lived in - for whatever reason - late at night, would you call them racist for being scared or imagining what could happen to them by the others? Nah, I'd call that being realistic. Again, it's a shame it happens, bu

Well, I'd guess that I confused it. So, as I said, they boys know how to tie it. It's just that some requirements are specific in detail, so I wanted to make sure that this wasn't the case with right or left when tying. Boomer brought up a great point about right handed versus left handed people. What I want to do is show them how to tie a bowline knot single handed ...afer I learn to do it myself!