Scoutfish

Basement, I did say that if a black person went through a predominantly white neighborhood in my area, he would be watched, scrutinized and possibly harrased. Me? Nah, I do not care . If they start snooping around houses, I will call the law. But In would also make that same call on a white person too. I'd make that call on any race of people..if they do sincearly appear to be doing something suspicious. And in my point of view, the action of being suspicious has the exact same requirements no mater what your race is. Now also, you have to realize, i am in a southern-ish state.

Why not have a "are you good enough to be a sniper" challenge? Shoot bottle caps or golf balls from 100 yards?

Skeptic, You know what, I looked in te 12th edition book ( and I assume that the earlier editions are pretty much the same) and actually do not see scout as a rank that has a checkoff page. I only see joining requirements and that scout is the first rank. When I brought this up to another ASM, he told me that I ( as the ASM of the new patrol) will review the material ( ie: test their knowledge) and check them off. At that time, they go to BoR or Scoutmaster. Now, he may have not said this as a true BoR . He may not have even said BoR at all. Maybe I just thought I heard it. Coul

They definantly know how to tie it. I've seen them do it many times. I just never paid attention to which side they started with...but since left/right doesn't matter - it's a non-issue now. The boys from the other pack that joined our troop...Don't know. But they should know how to tie it since they too just recently earned their Arrow of Light.

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Troop, Let me claify: I am the one who is going to sign off the book and be the one who says he has satisfied the requirements of the rank. This is before they go to the BoR. I am not going to be on the Bor , nor is the BOR going to re-test them. I am going to review ( or test- call it what you want) the scouts to see if they know the requirements ( which they all do since they just earned AoL) , and then sign off in the book . Then they can ask for a BoR. I never said the BoR was going to test them. Never said I was on the BoR. I am going to review them

I'm with you Eamonn...I am not racist or bigoted myself. BUT....... I am a realist. I do know that if you go into a predominantly black area, "some" of those people will give me grief and cause trouble because there are those who are the bad aples of the group. But I also know that it works both ways. I live in NC. While not the deep south, it's still a southern state. I know that if a black person walks into a predominantly white neighborhood, he will be looked upon with scourn and the chances of him being labeled , targeted and even harrassed are good. Not by all the white

I couldn't tell you if that is the exact reason why, but you are correct in that they do not wear jambo patches. As CM, I wear the patch from the latest cub scout camping we went to wether resident, parent son, or camporree.. The scouts like it and makes them want to go camping to get the patch too. Of course, once they go camping, the patch is no longer the main thing on their minds.

So as a new ASM, I am going to review the scouts from the newest patrol on their Scout badge to see if they are ready to go to the BOR for that badge. So I was talking with a long time ASM and he was going over fine details and such. So when we get to the square knot, he says "Right over and then under the left side, then left over then under right." So here's my question: Does it have to specifically be right side first or can they do it opposite with the left side first? Not trying to split hairs, just wondering as I do not want to short change the requirement. I do

So let's crlarify something: Are trhey already signed off on AoL by the former DL? If so, go ahead and give it to them like Eamonn said. It's not really your place to back track at this point. But if it isn't signed off, tell them that a scout is honest and trustworthy and that all of you are going to do it right! Don't blast the old DM for not doing it right, just explain there was a mistake made. Now, Basement brouight up the birthday thing. He's rigfht. Birthday has nothing to do with any of this. Unless they are about to turn 11 . At that point, they can join a tro

Engineer, I have to echo them too. Anybody can be a big asset to a unit. Ideas, different ways of seeing thiungs, having s good bedside manor with the youth, just being there can be a big help. As you can tell from your own experience, long time scouters can get a bad case of tunnel visoin and have a skewered way of looking at things.

It's an Arrow of Light requirement: Your choice between a hike or camping as a den. We did both at the same time. Funny thing is, I would have swore on my paycheck that I read ( somewhere) that it had to be at least 3 miles, but I cannot find that specific distance in any literature anywhere!

In my experience, the first 2 things new parents ask are: 1) How long have you been in scouting? and 2) Do I have to stay here with him?

How long have you been doing this? Where is your uniform?

Welcome to scouting! So, it sounds like you are experiemcing a "normal" Tiger leader year. It's normal, but that don't make it completely right. Your Cm or CC should be willing to help you out. Granted, they can't always be at every meeting or stay the entire time when they are there, but they should be able to help you some. As for the parents: This is the Tiger year. They HAVE to be there. They are an adult partner to the Tiger Cub. Sure, this does not mean they have to bring cookies and milk, but it does mean they have to be there helping with their Tiger Cub. N

You are in a tricky spot for sure! No doubt they "appear " to not have earned the Arrow of Light, and yes, it must be earned. Giving it to them is an insult to those who have really earned it and also, giving it to them does not do them any favors at all. But having said that...you cannot blame the boys. The ideal thing to do here ( while using alot of tact) is to say: "Ooops! Mr/Mrs ( whatever the former DL's name was) misunderstood a few requirements for AoL. Then explain that in keeping with scout spirit, you are going to quckly catch up by knocking out rthe requir

Well, let me start off by first saying that every state has a different set of rules and regulations. We go to a soundside park down at the beach. It's a combo boat ramp, fishing pier, playground , mini amptheatre park. In my styate ( NC) those under 16 do not need a fishing license. Now, since we are a coastal pack, at least 3/4 of our members/ parents have been fishing enough to know what to do. Some are semi pro, some are just dangerous! The realitry is this: we pretty much figure we are going to help the kids fed the fish. If they catch fish....that's awesome! We

WHOA! I was totally kidding about the SPL using the term "guys". That example is just as rediculous as the Sm telling the SPL not to tell the scouts they can be an Eagle one day. Hey, lets call the SM and tell him that he should petition the schools to keep teachers from telling kids they can go to college. Or maybe we shouldn't talk to our kids about moving out and getting a job and getting married one day. Maybe we should just drop the whole "Just say no to drugs" idea while we are at it because, well ....lets face it.... some people will get addicted to medicines that were

Well, I think the bigger issue is that he said "guys" to his fellow scouts! I mean, we do not want them confused and thinking they are really "guys" when in truth, they are only just adolescents. WOW! Talk about PC overkill. I hope this troop doesn't talk about about advancement because frankly, not every scout advances either. Might be time for the CC or COR to have a friendly talk with the SM about this.

I believe officially it is Webelos Den for boys working on their Webelos badge, and Arrow of Light Den for boys working on AOL. No, it is Webelos den. You may have more than one den of Webelos due to the number of Webelos you have, but then it would be Webelos den 8 ans Webelos den 3 or whatever their den number was, but both dens are just Webelos dens.. Our pack informally refers to them as Webelos I and Webelos II - which is short for first year and second year Webelos. But again, that is an informal reference we use and not a correct or standard reference. Now, if you hav

Yeah, I'm probably gonna just go with an ASM shirt. The adults will know who I am and what I am doing. The scouts know who I am and can't wait to see what we are gonna do next. They act the same around me wether I am in full scout uniform, blue jeans and button up shirt ( Christmas party) or pink unitard and tutu!

Our scout building is out behind the CO. It's a 20 X 25 bulding that we share with our trrop. Size wise, it's great for a single den to meet in, or can be used as a PWD workshop, and the troop does BOR and troop meetings when the weather doesn't cooperate. The troop committee wilol also condcut buisness there while the troop is doing troop stuff. This building also has a 5 X 10 closet for the pack. It's where we keep our stuff including our announcment easil and pack flag. So, anyways, we have a few boys who are nbot mean, just that they have a never ending suply of energy. They

I am to velcro , what salt water is to bare metal! Well, my succesion plan is working, come June 1st, I am stepping down from CubMaster to be an ACM. I have already started working with my excellent replacement. The pack wants me to stick around, but I am thinking that, by the end of another year, I should be able to step dowm completely as there should be plenty of fresh new faces to take up the positions. So it comes down to buying an extra shirt for 1 years worth of service. PLus, I challenged my son . While he goes through his physical challenge, I told him I was goin

WE do ours the first Monday of June. Our pack is a nine month meeting pack, but we do at least two packe events during June , July, and August. W did something different last year: Instead of planning for the entire year, we just planned from roundup til Christmas. Come January leaders meeting, we plan the second half of the year. Worked out better for us since about half the stuff after Christmas is subject to change or reschedualing.

Okay, even though this is a question about uniforms, it is not a uniform question. That make sense? LOL!' Okay, here's the deal: I am about to be dual registered as an ASM, and ACM. But look....I am not going to buy two seperate uniform shirts. As I see it, I may have one more year - two tops in cub scouting. So, it's gonna be double duty shirt wearing. Plus, the troop meets immediatly after the pack does on the same night. Now, I am thinking I should switch to a troop uniform since the cubs may not pay as much attention to color of the numbers as the fact tha