John-in-KC

Having been a COR and a CC,

I want you to be both the resource person and a bit of appetite suppressant for the youth. 

Help your SPL have options for camping weekends. At the same time, help SPL understand limits, before the planning meeting...it fails common sense to drive 150 miles on a Friday night in Michigan in November. 

Finally, BSA has its annual program monthly themes. I’ve linked the program planning guide from the WD Boyce Council, which has them for Cubs (think den chiefs) and Scouts...

http://www.wdboyce.org/document/program-guide/181492

First,

i did my first fifty miler in the San Fernando Valley Council when I was 12. It was called the Silver Knapsack Trail.

i repeated it when I was 13. 

When I was 14, I did a 60 mile segment of the John Muir (Pacific Crest) Trail.

Yes, Dad did the trail with me. He was deep in books studying for his undergrad degree after retiring from tha Army when my brother was a Scout, so he wanted the chance. 

BTW, I’m 62 now.

Second, before you bash the programs for youth of attendees at Philmont Training Center, maybe you ought to read their website or discuss with someone what they are about. If you’re interested in the weeklong Trek for PTC youth, message me. My boy did it. 

On 8/18/2019 at 1:45 PM, skeptic said:

The National Lodge needs tor to reevaluate the history and find a way to reinstate the mystique and actual "honor" in being a member.  It has been beaten to death, but there need to be more actual limits on eligibility that make it less a "gimme".  They sill have a purpose and in ur council do help, though, as noted, getting higher participation is difficult.  But that has as much to do with the lesser honor issues than simply the over-scheduled lives of the scouts in general. 

 

I could not agree more. 

28 years...that was a helluva retirement he kissed goodbye to.

i presume BSA corporate discharged him for cause, ALONG WITH the local council

Welcome to Scouter, @Herkimer.

Welcome to Scouter, @greenreddew  

Welcome to Scouter, @Theone67, as to your question, my two cents would be

“donation to the town of ____  built by troop 123, as part of an Eagle Leadership Service Project. “

Theres no RULE about your name, I just tend to be quieter in tooting my horn. 

As a counselor trainer, I advised new counselors to keep them eight years. That supports the worst case ... the Webelo who bridges at 10 1/2, allowing him to migrate all the way through the program. 

Ditto the Troop Advancement Coordinator, or whoever uploads to ScoutNet. 

Making it easier. Dumb decision, National.

You do not have to re register this adult. Coordinate with your CC. 

On 8/12/2019 at 2:31 PM, sierracharliescouter said:

Yes, it would, because I very much doubt that most (or maybe any) councils have the appropriate level of expertise or resources to appropriately evaluate the risks for every Eagle project, and it should be up to the beneficiary to determine if the risks are acceptable to them.

Trust me, @RichardB and the Safety Mafia will provide that in a new PD 4/5/6...OSHA compliance. 🤦‍♂️

First, welcome to Scouter, @dabears.  

You are the ringmaster of the Pack meeting!  Keep it simple, make it fun!

- A den does the flag

- A den (dens) does (do) the skit (skits)

- A den (dens) does (do) the song (songs)

- Your advancement guy and you give out all the patches.

- You be Akela and tell a story with a moral.

The Pack Committee does cleanup.

Theres a National Theme for the month.  Two months out, you pin the tail on the den leaders.

as Chief of Program, your task is program.  Your CC makes sure you have the support you need.

You get your den leaders to go to training.

You encourage Scoutmasters to pony up Den Chiefs.

I wish you well, KISMIF!

Some Councils are big enough to host WB annually. 

Others can justify a biennial cycle. 

Still others run in area clusters. 

I wrnt out out of Council, because I knew both the staff and the students in my own.  Expand your horizons. 

When did Youth Protection begin?  I know it was in place by the time I returned to Scouting in 1999. 

This just popped on NPR. Stand by, the ambulance chasers in your Council will be coming after it. 

This one is in the Pennsylvania Mountains Council.

NPR:  New Lawsuit Reveals More Sexual Abuse Allegations Against the Boy Scouts of America

Mark my words, the day is coming when the local Council will review projects for safety before clearing to start. 

@Zombeye, welcome to Scouter. 

My folks had this kind of tent. It had a center pole, that had umbrella like framing out to each corner.  The holes at the corners tied off guy lines.  Depending on how it was set up, it might have a side room that had exterior poles to set them upright. 

Oh, the awning was also the winter door closure. 

Regrettably I can understand the reasons to be wary of this. In my neck of the woods, non custodial parents claiming custody by kidnapping is on the rise. If you read the reports, human trafficking of children, first world children, is on the rise. 

This isnt 1920 or even 1950. 😞

I understand what old Top is saying.  I’ve seen Scouters wear their Eagle patches on their uniforms...

My further question is if he’s off to college this fall, will he have a chance to take an Ordeal in the coming year?  IIRC elections have a 12 month shelf life. 

What was the first year BSA had National Camp Standards?

19 minutes ago, David CO said:

Because the scout is accused of possessing and using marijuana on the Chartered Organization's property, I think it is absolutely necessary to inform the COR (even if this means that the investigation and decision making process might be taken out of the hands of the unit leadership). 

Concur. The chartered partner has every right to protect its good name. 

Pin addition, I’m certain in a lot of states, this is an outright violation of the law, AND a reportable youth protection event. 

23 minutes ago, scoutereagle12 said:

Hi all,

I just finished an amazing 12-day trek with my Philmont Crew and we received the We All Made It Plaque. Does anyone know how we can get our crew number engraved on to the blank space on the plaque?

@scoutereagle12, welcome to the forums. 

Talk to your local award store in your home city.  They should be willing to do it for a nominal fee. 

5 minutes ago, RainShine said:

Okay thanks. Indeed I intend to complete the forms for our own use and not turn them in. I don't want to recreate a method for measuring improvement. I suppose if I thought we were going to get Gold I would change my mind!  😉

Just tell your friendly unit commissioner that he can do your scut work...

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Journey to excellence is unit serving volunteers doing metric management for the sake of the professionals. 

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