Gold Winger

"They probably did the age part in parenthesis because of the fact that some 10 year olds are basicly 1 year behind in school due to the cut off date for starting school. " Ummmmmm . . . don't buy that. The parenthesis don't really clarify or quantify anything here.

I'm guessing that's a leadership and program problem. They don't see the fun or their parents don't see the purpose in having them at the events.

There is no way to remove a CC democratically, the CC doesn't serve at the pleasure of the committee, she serves at the pleasure of the CO. Talk to your unit commissioner, get him (her?) involved. The UC should be distanced enough from the unit to help without getting involve with the personalities.

"If a few more BSA members could actually play the bugle maybe the WWII veterans would get something better than recorded music at their funerals." I went to a vets funeral in February and they Army provided two soldiers to fold and present the flag and a bugler who lurked in the trees and played taps.

Weeeelll BeeDubya, you referenced the adult application. I don't have one of those to hand. I'd have to drive a few miles an break into an office to get on, that's not worth it. As for not understanding melodrama, you also don't understand much that is fun. Makes me wonder what you think about when you're out on the bounding main, fighting off boarders with your cutlass. Do you think "This is a violation of G2SS" or do you think, "Gosh darn it, I this is fun, I wouldn't be doing anything else!"

Stosth is an advisor for a unit that re-enacts battles from the War of Northern Aggression.

BeeDubya, we depend on you for chapter and verse on anything BSA because you seem to have infinte resources available and have them indexed and tablulated for quick reference.

A piper plays the bagpipes.

"He is not CR for one unit. He is CR for the Chartering Organization. Each CO has one, and only one CR. Regardless of how many Scouting uits the CO has the same person is the CR." I bow to your greater wisdom. However, unless they are just faux CORs, my son's CO has one each for Venturing, Boy Scouts and Cub Scouts. "CR can duplicate as is the Committee Chair." That makes sense. How could he work for someone when he had appointed that person and could fire him. Sounds like a registration problem and heads should roll/

Well, a COR can hold two positions in any unit, COR and another slot. Be that as it may, he's SM in one unit and COR for another. Two units, two positions.

"What I don't like is that the bugler is a leadership position." It isn't, it is a "Position of Responsibility." Librarian, QM, Historian are not leadership slots but they are PORs.

What else would you expect. We never did a COH at a campout but what do you recall from your youth? Were parents there?

A Scoutmaster conference is not always an indication that a boy is ready to advance, neither is the Board of Review. It could be the purpose of the conference was to tell your son that he wasn't ready yet. As for the rules being the same in every country, not hardly.

Floating around on the earth? Everyone knows that the continents are being carried on the back of trolls and earthquakes occurs when one of the trolls fart.

As the COR, he can set whatever guidelines that he wants for your unit and can only be overridden by the IH. If he shows up and says that your units uniform is now hawaiian shirts and plaid shorts, that's what you gotta wear. Sounds like he's a bit perturbed by his Scouts becomming more involved in Venturing than they are in Scouting which he sees as weakening the troop. Try the old, "sit down over a cup of coffee" and have a chat. Ask him where he came up with the idea that Crews only meet once a month. You guys are swimming in the same cesspool and he has the bigger stick so you need to find a way to get along. If that doesn't work, talk to your unit commissioner and IH. If that doesn't help, find a new CO.

Hmmmm . . . I was involved in youth sports for over two decades as an official and I never met a high school coach who was understanding about missing games/meets or missing practices. You must live in a very tolerant part of the country. As for disappointment, I'm not disappointed because it is all as I expected.

Why isn't ignore working? BeeDubya, where and when did I condone peeing in a water bottle? I simply said that it was fun for an 11 year old and don't see it as a reason to expel someone from a troop.

"Howbout that Walt Johnson, uh?" Big Train! Reportly the only major league player to have a high school named after him although Roberto Clemente has a couple middle schools named for him.

I think that it's a Sharp Shinned Hawk.

That's why you tell them! You say, "guys when you hear this . . . you come a runnin and when you hear this . . . it's time for lunch and when you hear this .. . the PLC needs to get together." Pretty simple idea, no?

Ah, the secret Rules and Regulations that the unannointed may never see. . . hmmmmm . . . BSA may say that but what they want is something else. Our DE (remember you're the one who always says to go to the professionals) says that active means "registered."

" Well your views on Boy Scouts urinating in other peoples water bottles as being acceptable youthful fun is probably not gonna be of those times." Where did I say that it was acceptable? I just said that it was fun for an 11 year old. Car surfing isn't acceptable but it's fun too. Heck, farting is fun but it's usually not acceptable. I'll bet that you play bridge.

A good music shop would take it and lovingly repair it so it was like new. A bugler should blow assembly to sound the start of meetings or to call the Scouts in from a game. Taps at night. Colors. Reveille. Retreat. Officers call for a PLC at a campout. Lots of times to play the bugle. Make it part of the program.

"the point is that HE DID HIS JOB." Did he? If he told the cross country coach that he couldn't make a meet because he had a Scouting event, what would happen? Would he still get his letter if he wanted to run but couldn't because of other activities? What about math bowl? If he didn't go to math bowl practices, would he get credit even though he wasn't there? In the end, I'm not in charge of your son's troop. So my opinion doesn't matter but to me, it sounds like your son is overextended and wants special consideration from Scouting because, after all, it is only Scouting and we should be understanding.

Gee BeeDubya, when I brought the subject up about a year ago, it was pointed out to me that BSA did not support the position that not doing the job could hold a boy back. http://www.scouter.com/forums/viewThread.asp?threadID=173293#id_173313 As for peeing in someone's water bottle, it is hi-larious when you're 11 but you skipped childhood so you wouldn't know about that.