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Hi All >>Ed, you sound like a broken record. How about telling us WHY this should not be part of the Scouting program and WHY it should not be part of advancement. Make a case for your position.

>>On the hat issue, I would much rather be approached and informed that I was possibly not aware of the practices of the house of faith I was in than to be allowed to continue to offend those whose practices I was violating. Especially since continuing to violate them reflects poorly on both myself and my Troop and the BSA -

>>I cannot believe that any adult would condone that scouts be allowed to drag another one off against his will to do ANYTHING and to turn a blind eye to it, and that other adults would support such an action.

>>I do not see why the PLC should be asked to consider changing the plans just to suit his desires.

HI All Im not sure there is a right or wrong answer here. I do like Beavahers post because what I think he was trying to say is make sure the process maintains integrity. I know we want to give the scouts responsibility so they learn from the successes and failures, but there is a reason for a scoutmaster in a boy run troop. The SM is the foundation of wisdom for which all decisions are measured. In this case the SM should be encouraging the important trait of fairness. You may or may not have real good reasons for one election method over the other. But what you cant do is come out sayin

If you are ever in Oklahoma, look for a BSA plate with EAGLEDAD on it. Pull me over and I'll buy you lunch. Because I like this scouting stuff so much. Barry

The new Victory is one of those bikes Ive got to personally see to have an opinion. It is so far out there in the pictures that I have a hard time imagining myself on it. I hear great things about it. Lots of power and handles great. Very comfortable to ride except that it can get a little hot. I havent seen it around here yet. Honestly I hope the new bike does well, I understand Victory is struggling a little and Id hate to see them go the way of the Indian. Barry

>>I'd work with the CC to find a parent who can do communication tasks - hopefully with that person using the boys to do some of the work. The SPL should be designating and working with a lower APL/PL to help out.

Hi All, Walmart has some very nice fleece jackets on sale for $5. We were talking about how to cut cost down on back packing equipment. There were mentions that Walmart, Target and other similar stores put pack packing equipment and clothing on sale all the time. Well maybe we can announce when we see these good deals so the rest of us can tell our scouts. I love this scouting Stuff. Barry

Wonderful Sunday All I guess the short answer is if the boys dont learn communication here, then where? We once had a family where the mother was always complaining that she didnt know what was going on in the troop. She was on her younger sons pack committee where she had a controlling reputation. When her second son joined the troop, she joined as a Troop committee member. At our first new parents meeting, she announced to everyone that she designed a troop communications network, which didnt include the scouts anywhere in the process. It was a big complicated network, but she assured

HI All I have to laugh at the first time we had a backpacking expert come in and talk to our familes. We were going on our first big backpacking trek in six months and we wanted to give the families and idea of their sons needed. Well by the time he finished his talk, each family needed to cough up $1500. That almost ended the trek, but we started all over and found someone who showed us how to get what we needed at less than a third the cost. You dont need to go for the expensive gear. For example you can find fleece vest, jackets and even pants at Walmart really cheap right now. Many

Happy Scouting All >>I'm now trying to figure out how to best address the dad's feelings.

>>you raise excellent points calico. The BSa and 4-h seem to share two out of the three basic principles, I am just not sure that I would be willing to give up God in order to be able to say that the BSA has X number more members than the 4-H has.

Umm, you need to go study up on the Girls Scouts, Campfire, and Canadian scouts and measure their success after attempting the same progressive design. Not one of those organizations has recovered to the success they had before they changed and I hear the Canadian Scouts is hanging on by a thread. That is a considerable feat considering that the Canadian Scouts had one of the strongest Scouting organizations in the early 90s. In fact, I have not heard a lot about Scouting outside US and Canada, but I wonder if any scouting program in other countries has done better after radically chang

Sunny Oklahoma Wednesday All >>Not to take anything away from the cub scout program but from an adult leadership position the Pack should have less drama than a troop. The CC and CM run a show once month and help set-up a calendar for the year.

Just before I got back into this scouting stuff, our district use to participate in an Emergency Drill simulation that evolved all the Troops (maybe packs, I dont know), police, and fire departments. Everyone was give a designated two week period where they would get a disaster call. Usually in the middle of the night the city leaders would call a disaster emergency, (probably tornado since that is typical for our area) and then the police, fire, scouts and volunteer emergency clubs would all gather at the local armory for further instructions. This usually involved a 24 hour period wher

>>It sounds like the problem was with the 91 year old chairman more than the district.

I have not been on the EBOR board, but I have attended many as a Scoutmaster. One that sticks in my mind was the EBOR for a deaf scout. Our scouts personally set up their EBOR dates with the district EBOR Chairman, but I called the chairman to remind the board members to look strait at the scout so he could clearly read their lips. I guess I started the conversation wrong because the 91 year old chairman cut me off and said that he didnt want any information that would give the scout an advantage even if he was deaf, and he hung up without giving me a chance to give another word. OK, that was

>>Folks who live in white-collar and strongly religious communities may have a very strong aversion to incidental use of 4-letter words.>This has nothing to do with morals

>>However, it is simple enough to do and costs nothing. So why not file one anyway to cover all bases.

Hi All You guys are missing a very important part of April's post. >>we will all be going separately and just sitting together to watch the race.

You will get several answers because each council is a little different, but our council would say no you don't need a permit. Probably best to Call your scout office. Barry

Hi All >>My observation is that parents (around here, anyway) are anxious about letting 13-year-olds go to the mall without adult supervision. A lot of the parents are anxious about letting their boys camp overnight WITH adult supervision.

>>What a wonderful day.

>> Anyone know anything about the Suzuki Boulevard? I have yet to hear anything good or bad about it.