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This dalliance with trying to make this into a short story or something is troublesome.

By adhering to our legal principle of presumption of innocence. BSA has turned this on its head. If someone accuses in BSA, you are guilty until proven innocent. Except, you are never given the Kafkaesque opportunity to prove innocence. And even some who have been proven innocent are still left on the IVF. In the case @Eagle94-A1 relates, the Scout accused an adult of "solicitation of a minor" or "unlawful contact of a minor", or some other statutory violation. We should take accusations seriously, and clear the air when they are made, because sometimes, they are based on an

I agree. Ive learned a lot since then.

Perhaps its a side note to your story, and perhaps not, but in truth, you probably should have been talking to the Webelos parents and letting the Scouts run the lashings. One of our standards of success is if the Scouts don't hear me speak until the Scoutmaster's Minute.

🙂 Thats cool. I'm just talkin' anyway. Y'all talk about important stuff on here. I'm not even looking for advice really. We can forget it if you prefer.

What happened this past week? Where is Part 2?

Lots to say but first, I recognize this could have been a lot worse. Waaay worse. The kid could have said I touched him or myself or something. In fact, having thought about it (and thought about it, and thought about it...) I mean, his story... think about that... that I came over and leaned over and looked down at him. He was in bed. I think he dreamed it. Seriously. I think he dreamed it. A branch or something cast a shadow on his face and he dreamed it, and he probably sat upright scared out of his wits. full on nightmare type thing. The only knock on that theory is the guy is 1

That's the trouble with accusations. They happen. Sometimes real. Sometimes someone squirming to get out of somewhere they don't want to be. How do you defend against loose accusations but also protect the vulnerable. This #### is hard. Wishing you the best.

Let me guess. The recharter paperwork came back and you're no longer the SM? Either way, having a good relationship with the CO is a really important goal of unit leadership. That's what prevents surprises, at least the kind that come in two parts. I wish you the best.

I’ll should wait for part 2. But what you’ve recounted so far emphasizes the importance of two-deep leadership and no one-on-one contact, and the difficulty ensuring it every minute of 240 hours of summer camp.

Displeased with Former COs who are "Iffy" about our Units Carter: I formed two new units over the last four years -- a new Scouts BSA Troop for Girls and a new Sea Scout Ship. We interviewed many potential chartered organizations and chose two outstanding entities that we knew to be examples of strong organizations that believed strongly in our Scouting missions. Our chartered organizations are deeply involved in what we do and provide oversight and other assistance. We are the principal youth program for both COs and they receive significant benefit through their association wit

I would maintain that the saddest part of this issue is and will remain the victimization of our youth, and the loss of innocence and mental well-being they suffered and continue to suffer. While I love Scouting, our worst case is that we lose entirely a fantastic youth organization, and that is not likely. And if it happens I am certain the void will be filled. The victims are already facing their worst case scenario. I don't mean to diminish your view of the legal system; tort reform is a conversation to be had. But in this situation, for me, all other pain takes a backseat to the victims.

Please tell me you did not receive a notice that you are now in the IVF? Good friend of mine was placed in the IVF due to a "scout's" accusation. He said she made a pass at him. She said he was being a peeping time after hours when the ladies had access to the showers. The police investigation found evidence to support her story, yet she was removed permanently from Scouting. As for the "scout," he was given Eagle. Sadly the "eagle" had a history of getting into trouble and lying to stay out of it. A year previously he accused folks of stuff when he was caught after curfew. If it w