I pulled out the Handbook on my shelf (12th edition). It had this definition of Obedient:
Later, there was a quote on a Scout being Chivalrous. It had this passage which was a quote from the 1914 handbook:
There are other quotes around obey that I could find - mostly having to do with either obeying the Scout Oath & Law or obeying laws.
My take away is that even our printed materials don't make the case that a Scout should obey all adults. He should respect those who are "superior" - but that's as far as it goes. If an adult comes along and tells the Scout to do something different on first aid, the Scout needs to show that he/she respectfully considered it, but made a different decision. This is the lesson I think we teach - we need to respect adults - but not necessarily obey them.
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This is true. The basic training experience is one thing. Out in the "real Air Force" or "real Army", etc., there are opportunities for give/take at the officer and noncommissioned officer levels. However, when the decision is made, one must execute the orders promptly, professionally, without reservation, to the utmost of ones ability. Regardless of personal feelings or obstacles. Caveats:
- All military members have an obligation to not obey unlawful orders. "I was only following orders" is not a get-out-of-jail free card. If you know something is morally or legally wrong, you must have the courage to say "no sir/no ma'am" regardless of the immediate consequences.
- Much gray area in military operations. It's nothing like the movies. If it's not obviously wrong, it's best to execute the orders and then question afterwards. Much more leeway is granted for discussion in this scenario. Example: quibbling over timing and technique. Just get the job done and talk about it later.
- There is a time and a place for everything. Immediate action may be required. Order received, order understood, execute.
- Knowledge of professional and personal subtleties is vital. There are many times when questioning is inappropriate or not welcome. The tone and demeanor used makes a huge difference.
As you know, much of this is true in the civilian community as well.
It requires courage and humility. Unfortunately, many young people have no sense of decorum or decision making ability because they haven't been taught. Factor in society's negative attitude towards these qualities, and it's even more of a challenge. I taught school after I retired from the military. Interesting days.