The notice from National responding to NPR report of DD considering dumping Scouting

[skeptic]

The included link came in an email to me this morning from National, it appears.  How many others may have gotten this?

 

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/11/25/nx-s1-5615164/pentagon-scouting-hegseth-cut-ties

[DuctTape]

Yep.

[scoutldr]

The values of the DoD and woke Scouting no longer align.  Predictable.

[Tron]

I saw the original email, I read the original NPR story (not helping with their DEI knot and rainbow slide photo btw), and I've now seen nothing much come out throughout the day except the leak/rumor; I mean, we got nothing? Rex Tillerson just did a video for Scouting America on Veterans Day; dudes got the connections at all levels in the Republican Party. None of these muldunes (https://www.scouting.org/about/governance/national-executive-board/) have anything for Scouting America? My council has 3 flag officers on the BOD and no one knows the whole story or has seen the full policy? 

This all smells like some sort of manipulation scheme; at this point all of the rage baiting is going to backfire. Everyone fired up about anti-DEI Hegseth and what happens if national decides to kill the Citizenship in Society MB over this? 

[skeptic]

4 hours ago, scoutldr said:

The values of the DoD and woke Scouting no longer align.  Predictable.

Woke is not a real thing; just a hot button prod.  Simple adherence to the Scout Law, Oath, and so on is not Woke, just civility and basic kindness for others, no matter their beliefs or how they may look, o what their name are.  Ignorance held up by stupidity and sheeple.  

Edited 15 hours ago by skeptic

[RememberSchiff]

According to source below, this proposal calls for the Pentagon do to the following:

• pull medical and logistical aid to the National Jamboree.  (unclear how much this would apply to WV Guard units)
• prohibit Scouting troops from meeting at military installations in the U.S. and abroad.
• Eagle Scouts who decide to enlist also enjoy advanced (E-2 or less frequently these days E-3) military rank with better pay 

NPR reported Navy Secretary John Phelan comments:

“Passive support to Scouting America through access to military installations and educational opportunities ... serve as a crucial recruiting and community engagement tool for the [Navy].”  The Navy Secretary also noted that almost a third of the Navy’s officers in training have some scouting background.

Source:

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5621952-scouting-america-us-military/

[RememberSchiff]

IMHO, Scouting America should ask well-spoken Robert Gates, former president of the Boy Scouts of America and Secretary of Defense for Presidents Bush and Obama to respond.

[Tron]

1 hour ago, RememberSchiff said:

According to source below, this proposal calls for the Pentagon do to the following:

• pull medical and logistical aid to the National Jamboree.  (unclear how much this would apply to WV Guard units)
• prohibit Scouting troops from meeting at military installations in the U.S. and abroad.
• Eagle Scouts who decide to enlist also enjoy advanced (E-2 or less frequently these days E-3) military rank with better pay 

NPR reported Navy Secretary John Phelan comments:

“Passive support to Scouting America through access to military installations and educational opportunities ... serve as a crucial recruiting and community engagement tool for the [Navy].”  The Navy Secretary also noted that almost a third of the Navy’s officers in training have some scouting background.

Source:

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5621952-scouting-america-us-military/

So the support for JAMBO is not something the department of war can just withdraw; there is a process and it has to clear congress; the actual law is that the US military has to support JAMBO at least at the level of the previous JAMBOs support. As I understand it the only way out is if we are at war and well ... we just fought 2 wars while also supporting like 10 peacekeeping forces, while also fighting a good 2 dozen "low intensity" engagements; that whole time the military was able to support JAMBO. Not thinking JAMBO support goes away. 

Prohibiting scouts on military installations will go no-where. First of all just plain stupid and no way enforceable considering that the US military lets all kinds of youth groups onto installations. Secondly garrison commanders have an EXTREME amount of authority as to what they allow or do not allow to happen on their bases and there are just too many military facilities out there. Toss in any potential pivot of USO to support the scouts at the troops urging. Just not worried about this at all; it's like a made up micro managing issue. 

In my recruiting days Eagle Scouts came in as E4; it was only 1 extra piece of paperwork and no hair off our backs to get that done for the rare enlistee that was an Eagle Scout. If your Eagle Scout is being offered less than E4 you need to take them to a different recruiter that can be bothered to press print and then sign and date a piece of paper.