Council Pressure

[NJCubScouter]

Our unit does the popcorn sales because they sell enough to make it worth it to the unit.  We don't care what the council gets out of it.

 

You are fortunate to apparently have so many people in your local area who enjoy paying exorbitant prices for popcorn.  (And the prices are exorbitant partly because of "what the council gets out of it.")

[Stosh]

Ever check to see what the GS/USA unit gets as a cut of cookie sales?  Money is the only thing these people know, program be damned.

[Cleveland Rocks]

Ever check to see what the GS/USA unit gets as a cut of cookie sales?  Money is the only thing these people know, program be damned.

 

My daughter's GS troop earns 69 cents on a $4 box of cookies. For those "special" ones that they sell for $4.50 or $5.00 (because, as they say, the production costs are higher, despite the fact the neighboring councils sell the same cookie for no additional cost), they still make 69 cents on those boxes. The council pockets the additional profit. $1.20 goes to the cookie maker.  So, the council pockets the remaining $2.11 on that $4 box.

 

So my daughter's troop makes 17.25% profit on the $4 box, and only 13.8% on the $5 box.

 

When the prices went up a few years ago from $3.50 a box to $4.00, the profit to troops only went from 63 cents/box to 69 cents.

 

You could earn an additional 3 cents profit per box for your troop if you chose (as a troop) to not take the tchochkie prizes.

 

The annual reports for my daughter's council show that, depending on the year, 70-75% of the council's annual income comes from cookie sales. Things like corporate donations and Friends of Scouting are foreign concepts to them.

 

Not to mention, you're not allowed to do your own fundraisers if you don't participate in the cookie sales and the fall program sale (magazines, candy & nuts).

[nuwriter]

"Fund Our Salaries"

 

 

 

Stop this. Scouting professionals make less than they otherwise would in any job of a similar skill set. They have families and children to support. Most of them put in 50-60 hours a week. 

 

They're under tremendous pressure on a daily basis. And while some volunteers are grateful, you get a great deal of grief from people who have no idea what they actually do. 

 

Can you imagine the sort of person who would look with scorn on a person who has dedicated their lives to Scouting? 

Stop this nonsense. Scouting professionals make less than they otherwise would in any job of a similar skill set. They have families and children to support. Most of them put in 50-60 hours a week. 

 

They're under tremendous pressure on a daily basis.

 

And while some volunteers are grateful, you get a great deal of grief from people who have no idea what they actually do.

[Back Pack]

I suspect the top leaders make substantially more than they should.

 

https://www.deseretnews.com/article/695226688/Scouts-may-be-thrifty-but-some-leaders-are-well-paid.html

 

http://www.theusaparty.com/boy-scout-wall-of-shame.html

Edited November 4, 2017 by Back Pack

[ItsBrian]

Stop this. Scouting professionals make less than they otherwise would in any job of a similar skill set. They have families and children to support. Most of them put in 50-60 hours a week. 

 

They're under tremendous pressure on a daily basis. And while some volunteers are grateful, you get a great deal of grief from people who have no idea what they actually do. 

 

Can you imagine the sort of person who would look with scorn on a person who has dedicated their lives to Scouting? 

 

Stop this nonsense. Scouting professionals make less than they otherwise would in any job of a similar skill set. They have families and children to support. Most of them put in 50-60 hours a week. 

 

They're under tremendous pressure on a daily basis.

 

And while some volunteers are grateful, you get a great deal of grief from people who have no idea what they actually do.

I think they mean the National Salaries... Execs make 600k+, Chief makes 2m+...

GSA pays their chief in the high hundred thousands...

[TAHAWK]

Stop this. Scouting professionals make less than they otherwise would in any job of a similar skill set. They have families and children to support. Most of them put in 50-60 hours a week. 

 

They're under tremendous pressure on a daily basis. And while some volunteers are grateful, you get a great deal of grief from people who have no idea what they actually do. 

 

Can you imagine the sort of person who would look with scorn on a person who has dedicated their lives to Scouting? 

Stop this nonsense. Scouting professionals make less than they otherwise would in any job of a similar skill set. They have families and children to support. Most of them put in 50-60 hours a week. 

 

They're under tremendous pressure on a daily basis.

 

And while some volunteers are grateful, you get a great deal of grief from people who have no idea what they actually do.

 

I pointed out the pay. hours, and pressure when personally making all the FOS presentations in my district for three years.

 

That being said, it is the case in my council that 93% of the council budget is salaries.  

[David CO]

Stop this.

 

No, I won't stop this. The execs can stomp all over us on their home turf, but they can't do it here. Scouters need a place like this where we can speak out and tell the truth without fear of retaliation.

Edited November 4, 2017 by David CO

[ProScouter06]

The council cannot force the unit to give any size donation. 

I find it hard to believe the unit is,as you say on the verge of folding because a professional scouter hasn’t visited them...