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  1. Need to first ask if the guy has ever had any mental issues in the past Assuming you already have a good feel for his personality shows patience, communicative, shows patience, delegates, shows patience, follows through, shows patience, open mind, shows patience, lives by the law, shows patience, lives by the oath, shows patience. He will be recognized as SM all through the community, 24/7 wherever he is and wherever he goes. The bigger issue your committee needs to define is the role for him. What kind of troop does your committee expect he operate? Ie boy lead vs. adult lead
  2. Do search results in YouTube differ with registration? Im afraid to admit I did this, but just went there and entered boy scouts & girl scouts and found easily a few hundred good wholesome videos before they started veering off topic, not into porn, just goofy kid stuff no longer related to Scouting. But I didnt register, which I wonder if that changes the results of a search. If it does, well, at least theres that registration barrier. If it doesnt, then good for them for keeping that crap out (or is it due to people posting more topical wholesome videos?). edit: typo (This
  3. Dean you are right on the head to a point. I understand your frustration, the warnings can seem are a little over the top, but only because of the adults disregard or just dont pay attention. We went to a very large regional camporee this past weekend. Had Troops there with only one leader how can that happen? This is one of the reasons I prefer BS, you probably do need to be more cautious in CS. If for no other reason, I dont think youve had time to build a relationship, not just with the boy, but his parents yet. A boy of CS age cant relate to an adult like a teenager can. And i
  4. I've thought about this before, how many camps, state parks or otherwise, will allow a group of youth to camp without a leader-in-charge? and how do you deal with tour permits? Will council approve one without a LIC & 2nd adult? (one more acronym!)
  5. Belayer - I don't think anyone is questioning the quality of your lodge or any of the wonderful Scouting things Shawnee has accomplished. As you said we all do better in some areas than others. I can point out both good and bad things with mine. But in this one aspect you have to admit vetoing after elections is not allowed; and now that you realize it, you all should revisit it. I highly doubt this is the first time this has been brought up to your lodge as this has been pointed out by other Scouters ala Eagle92. Picking and choosing which rules to follow isnt that great of a directi
  6. >>Have to say I wish you'd asked that question rather than assume I didn't know what I was talking about.
  7. Well, you have your work cut out for you. If you do your best you can always be proud you did what you could. What happens after that is out of your control. Good luck, son.
  8. Vicki - just a clarification - he needs 10 months from his Ordeal date before he is eligible for his Brotherhood. Spring will be too early.
  9. As you have already experienced, bad decisions have real consequences. Not receiving your Eagle will most probably be one more of them. Only you can turn this into a positive outcome. For your own sake, I hope you do.
  10. We put a LOT of hours into our camp. It seems we are forever there for This Good Turn or That Good Turn. The OA does numerous events there and all include some kind of good turn. I think I know the intricacies of that camps awful plumbing better than I do my own house. Now I dont mind, I love the place and my son calls it his second home. But when were trying to patch things along year after year it gets very frustrating and tiring. The camp is viewed as a major part of the Councils program and on the books DOES cover its expenses; but by golly do we volunteer for everything. Having a
  11. I think you need to be looking for better direction than can be provided on an internet forum. If this posting is even real, receiving Eagle is the least of the issues in your life right now. Real life brings real decisions and thereby real ramifications. My presumption is that you wouldn't have found yourself in this predicament, innocent or not, if you had used better judgment that comes along with exemplifying Scout spirit and living by the Law & Oath. Lets get some priorities here - if you are truly innocent, keep pushing to receive it but only after you receive your redemption. I
  12. Wearing the sash on the left shoulder will cover over the Scout's rank. All the images in any publications show it over the right. Adding a loop would be great, watching a Scout fight to keep it up during COHs can be hilarious. At least the OA sash is narrow enough to fit under the epaulette. I know we didnt change the sash width in 79 with the DLR uni, it just worked out that way. I always thought they just planned it that way (I know, I know).
  13. Nothing in my dated 2004 version insignia guide. 2 per row is no biggie, but that means he'll need 11 rows, can get kind of low on the sash. 3 per row means he only needs 7 rows. Not a big deal, either way.
  14. I'm not going to ask our families to go buy them if they don't need them. I'll let them transition as they wish. I would imagine our LEC will vote to at least have one for NOAC, so that will push a few more of us along in the spring.
  15. We have a national shop and they pulled our red loops & red trained patch at least two weeks ago.
  16. I feel for you Lisa, those are the tough ones. I ran into one of my former Scouts the other day, he must be in his early 20s by now. He was in a real beater car at our Y waiting on someone to come out. I pulled in the space right next to him. The windows were down and he looked rough. Long unkempt hair, scraggly beard, tatoos, smoking. He acted like he didn't see me until I said hello to him, by name. He had a look on his face that I was a person he was terrified to see. The spark in the eye from his young teen years was gone. Short and sad conversation. Those ones hurt.
  17. Another camp bites the dust. http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080824/NEWS01/808240316 ************************* Camp Avery Hand lowers flag for last time By Lou Whitmire News Journal August 24, 2008 MANSFIELD, Ohio -- The U.S. flag was lowered for the last time at Camp Avery Hand as members of the Heart of Ohio Boy Scout Council officially closed the 200-acre camp. The scenic camp on Orewiler Road is for sale; the asking price is $1.4 million. The flag was lowered by five Scouts at 1 p.m., in front of the dining hall across fro
  18. I took a crew to SCUBA Adventure in 2008. PM me with any questions, I would be glad to help as I understood the frustrations with getting answers!
  19. Doc I think you are over reacting and reading too much in a forum here. Do as has been recommended by numerous folks and I think it will put your mind at ease. Please reserve comment on some of these things until you investigate them properly.
  20. Just a quick hit, my perspective was we saw a statesman last night, compared to a politician last week. This will be an interesting 60 days.
  21. I went down this same road with my eldest daughter. I was really surprised at the differences and wondered if it was my bias to BSA. They told me we could run a GS troop like a patrol and that patrol is independent from others. That made no sense to me, as there is no way to gather camping gear or otherwise that will be utilized by younger Scouts. Each Troop (patrol) does it all themselves, which greatly limits resources, the number of parents to pitch in, and inhibits annual program consistency. They also told me we could structure the troop like a BS unit, with multiple ages involved.
  22. One thing Ive seen done is that you get a silkscreen logo for the event you are doing. We have a basic troop t-shirt with our little logo on the upper right breast. When we go do some fun things, I can get a silkscreen made up for about $50. We just email whatever image we want to a local t-shop and he makes the frame. After were done we drop it back off at his shop so he can do it again for us later. We have a squeegee and buy whatever color paint the guys want. They silkscreen on the image themselves where ever on the shirt they want its their shirt. Its really fun and adds to the ev
  23. >> It's a Scout's Eagle, not yours.
  24. Understood Doc; When I was selected for the Vigil honor I was an adult. I hadn't been through a ceremony as a candidate in 20 years. Daggone right I was nervous and not really happy about it. If you have concerns, talk to your lodge advisor or the lodge staff advisor and let one of them know you want to watch the program. Nobody will get excited about it, but if they should, tough. I think your concerns will be relieved by what you see; it is a great ceremony.
  25. Belayer Actually, the guys may have a pretty good idea who is eligible, but arent going to be exactly sure because of the 15 nights, especially if hes a part time Scout. But Id rather sit with a kid before an election and say, sorry Son, I dont think youve earned the right to be on the OA ballot, and heres why. Points for improvement are given, constructively. Plus, ideally this wont be the first time this kid has heard this from me, so it shouldnt be a shocker. Id rather have that talk any day of the week than after he was actually voted in and say sorry kid, you were voted in and I
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