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Eagledad gives you fantastic advice and direction. I completely concur. If you give him the opportunity to re- resubmit a proposal under whatever reasonable conditions you define, I cant believe there would be any reason for Dad to drag out this example of extremely poor judgment. And thats exactly how I would put it, provided with examples of what you could have done suggested by some folks right here on this forum. Ask him what does he think would happen if he sent that to one of his teachers? Make sure you keep your CC and maybe your UC in the loop on this. Require him to witne

They need to do the adult application. There are numerous differences, including the SS# for the background check.

I would agree, but we all know how much BL is constantly trying to keep their connection to youth today and this is one of the things they may have to sacrifice to get/stay there. Where should they draw the line? Would having a new American icon like Michael Phelps do that? As much as he should, Id doubt hed have the connection a Brady type does. It's hard enough to get these guys to read the magazine.

Our Council just subbed out to national, what an incredible improvement: current MB books, more things than we ever had before, better hours... just wonderful! We were very sceptical at first, but now very happy they made the move.

Thank you! I fully expected someone would pick up on that line, apparently the from afar wasnt clear enough. Our role is to guide, not do it for him, right? One more time, I am talking about the application, not prior to. Are you saying providing the requirements for each rank is not necessary? Or for his merit badges? Why not just let him figure those out too? Lets prepare him for his Eagle now by starting with guessing his way through his Tenderfoot. Why do we need to give him a handbook? A dedicated Scout can figure it out on his own, otherwise he must not want it that badly

Zero tolerance. Good thing they didn't have that back in the day as some of us wouldn't be around to read this forum.

>> you need to be careful to keep expectations realistic and within BSA parameters.

Go with #C. As usual, you all need to chill a little. Lecture him a little and redirect him to do it properly. "And that is why Son, you will not dicuss an Eagle project by email with any adult. PICK UP THE PHONE OR ASK ME AT A MEETING." GW: I really hope that was sarcasm...

Did it just last night. Still works as good as when we were kids.

You ceratinly should be proud! It's a great feeling watching these boys grow and accomplish. Enjoy your time with him, it flies by.

As youve seen fully well on this forum there are many ways of skinning a cat. Heres my simple advice: People, who think they know it all, as they say, dont know what they dont know. Thats an arrogance issue that you ran smack into. You can offer some constructive criticism to the committee or other adult leaders about these issues, supporting it by citing sources. If you see someone on a rant about why something didnt work and can show them why it didnt through training or program documents, it tends to get their attention. Youre no longer a new guy. Over a years worth of experience

Yeah, not a problem at all. I hope my nephew's future lodge allows his cousins and I to be around to watch his!

Thats one of my numerous concerns: he represents the Troop to his Den. Seen where other Troops DC either have no impact or an outright negative influence and the Troop doesnt get any of the crossovers or they leave Scouts. I will need to be very careful in who I let take on this role. We will be having elections and POR assignments in a couple weeks and starting this eve I really want to push this position to see who answers the call when the new SPL offers the PORs. What I had in mind is that would be a logical step towards moving into the Troop Guide POR when this group of Webs crosse

Thats the Achilles of the Fair Tax: converting to it. Youll have the baby boomers and retirees getting the short end for a couple years until it starts evening out, which will be a significant adjustment to our society. People stuck in the middle will lose huge amounts of money without an effective transition plan. A major part of our economy is unfortunately built around dealing with the current tax system, every CPA and H&R Block will be suddenly left out in the cold. But to ignore it like the current and past presidents have is only going to exacerbate the problem, just like theyve

For the project, yes, I'm not as concerned. You are correct, the Scout needs to work through it lumps and all. Our District advisors pretty much just tell them after he is ready to start, "call me if anything comes up, otherwise let me know when you're done." The only time I or any leaders get involved is when I see something really headed in the wrong direction. But typically it's just the routine 'how's it going' kind of thing. We need to watch that Dad isn't doing too much, while I can be suspicious it's hard to tell what is going on at home! My hang up is with the application paperw

I'm with Gern & Bevah, I would vote Libertarian if it weren't for their stand on legalizing drugs. In fact, I think that is one issue that keeps people from really taking them seriously. I'm a great believer in the Fair Tax. Bush has failed miserably in a few aspects (ie immigration, budget/expenses, finishing the war); not happy with the loss of manufacturing in America but not so sure either can stop the trends. But other than those, can't complain.... we've been safe! Blame energy problems on both parties. I can't go 'D' because I just can't accept their platform, or a guy that's

How is he going to know what? That he's been given bad advice? If that's what you mean, he won't until the proverbial sheep hits the fan. And we've already hashed all the wonderful attributes of that aspect. Does that follow LOGIC?

Troop and Pack calendars fill up quickly. There is a thing such as too many activities on a calendar, there may be a big event the weekend before or after yours; that may be a big football, soccer, baseball weekend. Certain times of the year there's just too much going on to fit in any more. Too full of a calendar will burn out parents pretty fast - they still need time to meet other non-Scouting commitments. Try and find out these things when you visit the unit committees to get a commitment to make it an official event. If they decline, then at least ask them to allow you to promote the

>>Why is it necessary for the SM or anyone else to pick someone for him?

Once an official position is created, I didnt know this was an official position? We do this by proxy, asking a past Eagle Dad to fill this role with a young man that is where his son was not so long ago. He fully understands that its not his paperwork to do, but merely to proof, give directions, and guidance through the undocumented process seemingly everyone in the district but the Scout knows he is to follow. Any out of line step can cause great ruckus and it's usually followed by blame directed right back to the unit. It gives the past Eagle Dad a good way of paying back without too

As a Scout JLT and SPL training in 1979 or 80. Whatever they called the Scoutmaster training in 1990 after I finished college... I think it was two or three classes. Then took a break from Scouting to serve in Gulf War, start a family and get career going. Since returning in 2000 have taken the full composition of SM leader training offered, among many others.

There are really two topics here. One is his project and the other is his Eagle application paperwork. Our District provides a Project Advisor to help the candidate through his project. Our Adv. Chair or I (SM) assign that person after project approval. At that point, we also assign an adult from the committee as an advisor to assist with the Eagle application side of this (usually a past Eagle Dad thats been through the rigors of the process before). Now, neither this adult nor anyone else is going to chase this kid down, but will probe with inquiries every now and then to see how things

Great Monday morning DYB, after a wonderful weekend of Scouting fellowship at our fall ordeal I am very happy to see your response. While I can see that my post may have come across a little snobby, you are right, that wasnt the intention. The point was that we leaders can be a stubborn bunch, and part of that rotates around our roles in teaching and guiding young men in the daily applications of the Oath and Laws. It is also about the fact that sometimes we forget that were setting an example at all times for people all around us in our daily lives, our Scouts, those from other units, and

Ohhhh GW hit a nerve there? Hee Ok heres a couple off the top of my head: How about arguing against adding a camporee to the district calendar because weve never done that before. Or like refusing to offer more than two Eagle BORs per year, thereby making those two Saturdays marathons for the Scoutmasters. Or like starting arguments that Webelos should only cross over into their parent Troop. Or like refusing to accept we need more merit badge counselors. Or like falling asleep in meetings and when awaking realizing they missed a topic and want to rehash the whole agenda so they can

Wouldn't it be more prudent and more tactfull if the nominator did not reveal the nomination to the potential recipient until AFTER the recognition was approved? Yes, very tacky. Nothing good comes from disclosing that. Just like the year our Vigil chair decided to let the list of nominees get released. Bad news. I've never understood why adults get so hung up on collecting a chestful of knots. Fgoodwin Im with you here, always been proud of just wearing the only knot that mattered my Eagle. At least, that was until our DC cornered me one night and had a little chat with