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  1. Answer me this. Our troop attended summer camp. We pre-registered and sent in the list Of Merit Badges the boys would like to achieve. Well when we got there they had no record of the Merit Badges and proceeded to put the boys in different classes because most of requested classes where full. Some of the badges of course required that you where supposed to meet some of the requirements before you came. In this case the boy's would have to complete them after they left. In that situation who then signs off on the requirements that could not be completed at camp. What if you do not have A MB cou
  2. You are not going to convince parents like that that a "Boy Led" troop is the way to go. They want structure, control. They want a monthly written report as to how Johnny is doing. Boy led Troops can be chaotic and look disorderly at times. Take our case, we are a small Troop amongst bigger fish. But you know what, at almost every Camporee or event where several Troops are involved we normally always finish in the top three. In fact in the last 2 events we have taken the top awards given by the Districts involved. In one of the last events we went to a Camporee (out of District)and walke
  3. I attended WB as A CC. Do not worry about it. All of your questions will be answered as you take the course. Your ticket will be written before you leave the course. It will be looked over and approved by your Ticket Counselor and the SM for WB. They will advise you and guide you. To give you an example, one of my ticket items was to hold a "Merit Badge" day that would be open to any one who wanted to attend free of charge. This helped my troop as well as other scouts in other troops. You will have a good time. Relax and enjoy the ride.
  4. We hold a "Shooting Camporee" every other year. A local gun club lets us camp out and use their facilities, We have target (22)rifle shooting, Shotgun clay shooting, Bow and arrow and tomahawk throwing. We provide all meals and basically make it a fun Camporee. The boys enjoy it and some have even said that it is the most enjoyable camporee that they attend. We have two range masters on hand at all times. We are planning to have another one this Spring.
  5. I chaired a Camporee a couple of years ago. Went through all of this Webelos/Scout camping mess. ScoutNut is correct. Webelos are not allowed to spend the night or take part in activities at a Boy Scout Camporee. They can visit but have to leave at night. Webelos are encouraged to camp with a Troop (one on one and one night at a time) to experience what Scouting is about, just not at a Camporee. Agree or disagree that is how it is. Some People even say that holding a Weblosree and a Camporee at the same time in the same vicinity of each other (though there are seperate Camping and ac
  6. We have procedures to deal with problem "scouts". None of them include immediate dismissal. We first let the SM handle the problem scout by talking to him and try to lead him in the right direction. This may include some sort of suspension or dismissal from an over night camp out. The parents would be informed of the action taken and why it was taken. If problems persist his parents will need to come in and take part in a "problem solving" conference. At a minimum this meeting would include the Parents, the boy, SM and CC. It also might include the SPL if need be. If it is a problem with anoth
  7. Our troop has gone through similiar scenerios. SM steps down and no one wants the SM position. It has happened twice in the past 3 years. How we essentially handled for a little while it was a SM in name only. The "appointed" SM does go through the training and is registered as SM but the troop is ran on a shared responsibility basis. We got together and discussed situations. The boys essentially ran the program. Is this the best way to run a troop NO. Can it work under certian circumstances ? Yes, it can. For how long? Who knows. We now have a committed SM, but a lot of the work is still be
  8. There is nothing wrong with a bunch of like minded individuals getting together and going to play Laser tag outside of Scouting. If my son threw a personal Birthday Party are you telling me that because the Majority of his freinds are in his Troop they can not go Laser tagging because they are Scouts and at Scout functions they have a rule against human targeting with laser guns or paint balls? If it is not a Scout function and the kids are told it is not a scout function and kids arrive on their own brought by their parents then its just a bunch of kids getting together to have fun. Period. T
  9. We have a single who Mom wants to go BSA camping with her son and wants to bring 10 year old daughter with them. I am getting flack as CC as to having any women go camping let alone have a 10 year old girl tag along and camp with us. Some in the Troop want to have a meeting and vote on wether to let her go camping or not. I know that I have the power to make this decision on my own if need be. We have been rolling along for years with out any problems. So this has thrown a klinker in our smooth sailing. We have a couple of guys in the troop who have for years been the backbone of the Tro
  10. I know this has been probably discussed before, but I need some advice. We have a single MOM , late 20's that wants to join her son on Camp outs. He just crossed over from a visiting pack. I am the CC and have never had any problems in 3 years to really deal with. I have been blessed in this area. I am one of the newer members of the troop (4 YEARS). We have one gentleman who is and has been one of the main cogs for the Troop (ASM)for several years. He is serious about no women camping. I know that the BSA does not descriminate against women and If she joins the Troop as a Committee member sh
  11. The CO is the one who is supposed to Choose and appoint the COR. But that does not mean that you cannot relay your concerns and suggestions to the SM,CC, IH and his/her staff. From my point of view I would at least want my COR to be a person who was the outdoor type. He/She needs to be a person of good moral character and a good listener. Preferebly a former scout or may be a person with a military back ground. Somebody who has the ear of the Pastor and movers and shakers. The COR doesn't have to go camping or attend Scout meetings, but it would be nice for him/her to make a showing every now
  12. When my son was a Bear he built a Car from the kit that was supplied to him by the Pack. The kit was an official BSA pinewood Deby Kit. When we took the car to the race and it went through the inspection it was disqualified because it had an elongated wheel base. My son did not know any better and neither did I. After all it was an official kit. Apparently the axles slots where mis cut and it caused the wheel base to be elongated. The axles where located to far apart. He did not get to race because He could not move the axles. Always check your official cars to make sure that it fits the "le
  13. Here is a letter that was reiceved by a fellow scouter friend after they inquired with the local Scout Exec/CEO of our council about the new medical forms. Hope it will shed some light on this subject. Here it is: Subject: New BSA Medical Form > > > > At today's meeting we discussed the new BSA Medical > form and the > requirement to follow the height/weight (H/W) chart. I > have talked with > Richard Bourlon at the National office and received some > clarification. > I will do my best to communicate the message that I took > aw
  14. You have forgotten the one thing that kept us from getting a Bus. Insurance. Cost prohibitive. For the little use the Bus would get, we found the insurance was to steep for us.
  15. Eagle>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just finished 2nd week end of training. Had a Great time. Just as there are those who are curious about the 21st century course, I am sure that there are those of us that are wandering what the former course was like. But most of all let us all realize what we have accomplished, wether one went through the former course or the 21st century course. There ought to be a "Course" designed that one could take to sort of merge the two and allow "Woodbadgers" as a whole meld together and not have this divide between the former course an
  16. Cub scouts are not allowed to camp out on a camporee with "troops" present. They may visit the camporee during the day and to take part in the events that are age/skill appropiate. They are allowed to camp out with a troop for a regular camping event for one night . The parents/gardians are supposed to be there with them.
  17. You have done all you can do. Its a shame. The kid himself may want to be in the program but is at the mercy of the parents.
  18. An extra 10 minutes after the meeting is not going to hurt anybody if it stays to the ten minutes and it has so far. In the Scoutmaster handbook this same scenerio is suggested with both the SPL and Pl's attending the meeting and it also states that the SPL/PL meeting should be held after the regular Scout meeting. That is what he wants to do. The SM knows about the kids getting home. Thats why he was trying to keep it to the SPL and another adult and let the other boys go home. He basically is going by the book so to speak.
  19. Eagle90, that is what is suprising. These guy's are completely dedicated. Everyone of our leaders are trained for their individual postions. Most of them are cross trained as I am. (Venture, Cubs and Scouts) I am cross registered in all 3 and help in some areas in all of them. Some of the other leaders also wear many hats. Dedication is not the problem. Some may say that a few of us carry too big a load. That may be true. To clarify things, the SM is the one who wants to keep the regular 90 minute meeting time. Then after the regular meetimg concludes at 8:30 he wants to meet with the S
  20. Our new SM wants to change the format of our meetings. He is a seasoned Scout of 20 years. We normally meet from 7:00PM to 8:30 PM on Monday nights. After the "meeting" he would like for him and the SPL to have a time of discussion and reflection. No more than ten minutes. This would also require another adult to be there because of the "No one on one" rule. In lieu of this he has been asked by some of the other leaders to shorten the regular "meeting" ten minutes, dismiss the boys and then have his meeting with the SPL there by technically keeping the time (7:00 to 8:30 PM). Just to let
  21. We do a similiar thing when we have a Crossover ceremony where we present the "Arrow of Light" and have the Webelos crossover to the Boy Scouts. Members of the Order of the Arrow from the Scouts help us with this . It is done very professionally and they perform a Dance Ceremony while being dressed up in Indian Costumes. Yes, they do know what the dances mean and on most occasions they explain what the dances mean before they perform them. By the way we are no longer allowed per Edict by National to refer to the costumes as "Regalia". Do not ask me why. Makes no sense to me. This ceremony
  22. Just to let you know I am the CC for the "Troop" and am just trying to facillitate a resolution to the problem. I as CC of the Troop as well as our Scoutmaster have gotten involved at the request of the CC of the Pack. If it where not for that we would not be involved in this. As you can imagine we do not want to lose the Pack. We are looking at 4 Webelos crossing over this year. It would not be a good thing to lose our pack. Our pack was considered to be one of the top Packs in the area. But things can turn around fast. For your information the Troop does not meet on a Church night. We foun
  23. The school is supported by 3 different church's and each church houses a portion of the school on it's "Campus". Our CO happens to have the elementary part of the school on its property and is really the "head" Church of the Group. The principle and several of the teachers come from our church. The Scout program is considered a "ministry" of the church and because it is considered that we also have to follow certian "rules" that pertains to "Church Ministries". The LDS have certian rules that they follow and in this particulair instance so do we. Particularily when it comes to asking for
  24. The Troop is well aware of what is going on and has interceded on the Cubs behalf. Two of The original founders of the Pack/Troop have gone to bat for the Cubs, though one of them is no longer really involved with the Pack/Troop he is still looked up to and respected by the CO on these matters. The other founder is still heavily involved in the Troop. (SM) . The leaders in the Pack/Troop have complete trust in them. The Packs CC and CM still want to approach the CO. They still do not really know what is going on and would like a little input in this procedure. The Pack as it stands now needs
  25. I learned last night that the CO of our pack is thinking of dissolving our Pack. Our CO is a good size church and the pack has been in existance since 1988. We have 60 kids in the Pack. Last year we lost our CC,CM,ACM,Event person and a Bear leader. Our old CM moved up to be this years CC but only did so because she relized that we where in trouble. She had wanted to move on to a District position. We got a new CM just recently because he knew that we would fold without one and essentially was "forced" to take the position. We picked up one more volunteer, new to scouting. The CO did not not
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