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  1. Here is an article about the BSA being pressured to cave in on its Gay policy.. Big name CEO's of large corporations are pushing it . BSA National is going to cave if we do not do anything about it. Here is the article. Go to it and read it yourself. Seems like we ought to do a little boycotting ourselves. According to this article ATT's CEO Randall Stephenson is pegged to be the new BSA Board President and is pushing it big time. Stinks to high heaven. http://www.christianpost.com/news/boy-scouts-were-pressured-by-corporate-sponsors-to-change-policy-on-gays-89156/
  2. Well I hear the death bell of Scouting as we know it coming to an end if National rules to let homosexuals join the BSA. To many Religious organizations will probably back out of being CO's. Many will not bend their beliefs and will not like having the possibility of being sued for sexual discrimination hanging over their necks. I am CO of our troop and am not sure what would happen to our troop if this ruling goes toward allowing gays join the BSA. I guess if it happens I will find out.
  3. Just heard our DE is resigning his position. Nice guy. Not a Scouter, but did the best job he could. Our last 2 DE's had not been involved in scouting before they took the position. Both where college graduates in their mid 30's. They tried and to be honest with you there is no way I would become a DE. Not enough pay for the position to warrant the pressure put upon you. If you have a District committee that does not do its job, then I believe the DE can not do their jobs. How about it former DE's ?
  4. Sorry guys, I thought that the post had been deleted. I did not realize it had gotten put on to the patrol method sight. I just ran across it earlier this evening. The family involved after some discussion has decided to move on. They and five other families are leaving. We wish them well. They have a different ideas of scouting than the rest of the troop adults. (Webelos III) ring a bell. Not a bad thing, just not for our troop. When they realized that the SM was not going anywhere and that they where not going to get their way they decided to move on. We have offered to help them in ev
  5. SM does not recommend boy for board of review for advancement to Life scout. Parents are livid. The story as I understand it is that as in the past the SM had asked the boy to show leadership on his own and stop relying on his Dad so much. His Dad is a helicopter parent who is stuck in Cub Scout mode. Needless to say the Dad and the SM do not see eye to eye on a lot of things. On 3 different occasions the Scout was asked to help clean up after camp outs. He was defiant and on one occasion told the SM he needed to help his Dad load up then ran over to him and stood beside him and supposedly
  6. A lot OA dancers spend a lot of time and personal money to make these costumes. I know of a young man that has spent what I consider a substantial sum on his costume as well as countless hours designing and making it. He considers it his personal property and loans it to the Lodge for Ceremonial purposes. In my opinion he owns the costume and may do with it whatever he wants to. He may not be able to personally attend the Crossover himself and does not trust the other young men (perhaps from past experiences) to take care of it. Should the Lodge own their own equipment? Yes. If the
  7. Do you think the BSA Media Guidelines should control the content of your personal non scout web page? I personally do not think that it should. But if you read the guidelines it heavily leans to this fact. These are good guidelines but are not really anything new except YP BSA guidelines have been thrown in. I know some BSA leaders who think that if a few words or pictures are used by a scout on a personal web page that they deem a "offensive" media conversation or video then the BSA guide lines including YP guidelines should be used to control that situation. Does the BSA have the right to co
  8. A meeting to be held Monday night. The SM has had to talk to several adults on this matter and he is ticked off. There is now talk about trying to remove the SM as well as me. This is getting out of hand to the point that I may have to approach the IH for his opinion. We are a large church and he has very little to do with the scouts.
  9. Here it is. The SM will talk to him. He is still out of town. The SM will request that he apologize. I understand that most of you think that the scout need not apologize but that is the SM's decision, he has his reasons. He has been in scouting 20 years. There have been threats of 3 adults taking there kids and leaving. He will talk to them and explain this course of action and if it does not satisfy them then they can walk.
  10. I am not going to produce the file. It uses language like M***F**** on several occasions. FU on more occasions. Talks about girls having orgasms so on so forth. It also uses most all the lesser cuss words. You just have to take my word for it. Thanks for the advice.
  11. Look guys it is not a contract, its a statement that in all areas of his life he will hold up the morals and values that are embedded in the Scout oath and law and do so daily. Just a tool used to let him know that he has entered leadership in the scouts and that eyes are now upon him. He is in the spotlight. Both youth and adult leaders are watching and following his lead. Our adults are also held to high standards. Pray tell what is wrong with that? Believe it are not, Yes an adult would be approached if they put something up on his Facebook like this scout did and if on that same Face
  12. My response to the situation is to back the SM. He sees no need in further embarrassing the boy. He is going to have a long talk with him. His stance is if the "concerned" parents do not like how he handles it ,then they can walk. Just to let you know the video I started to watch was so full of vulgar language and innuendo that I stopped it after 30 seconds. It is still posted on his face book page. He will reap consequences outside our troop that I have no control over. He was (and I hope still is) well thought of by just more than our troop. He is well known by the whole Area Council.
  13. Most Troops have standards that the Scout should obtain before he is elected into a scout office. For instance we like our SPL to be at least 13, hold a First class rank, attend so many camp outs, wear his Scout uniform, attend at least 75% of regular Scout meetings so on so forth. We also explain to him that we expect him to adhere to the Scout Oath and Law in all aspects of his public life. This is explained to all of our "office" holders and they are required to read (with a parent or guardian present) and sign a statement that they will adhere to these standards in and out of scouting.
  14. I happen to be the CC/COR so that is the reason I am involved and that is the reason I talked to the SM and the DE and the DE is the one who let me know that he was approached by "Concerned parents". He is not really sticking his nose in it. I originally went to him and asked him what he thought about the BSA "Media Guide lines" and of he thought that that should be thrown in the kid's face . These parents seem to think that those guidelines ought to be enforced on a "Scout" personal page. That is another discussion. Kudu, yes the video is on you tube,(This message has been edited by
  15. The Scout in question is with a OA group hiking at a location several hundred miles from here. As far as I know he does not have a clue as to what a stir he has caused by posting that video. Our troop is considered to be the best troop in our District (per DE) which cover 4 counties. Up until now he was considered by many to be one of the best SPL's in the District. He is an outstanding speaker, writes articles about Scouting for the local newspaper and has published a book about his trip to the 2010 Jambo. I had a talk with our DE and found out that "concerned" parents have talked to him
  16. Well our 16 year old SPL has posted a video on Facebook (not him) on his personal page that basically uses a lot of cuss words to describe a situation about interracial dating and since he is Facebook friends with the younger boy's in the troop they also had access to this video. No sexy scenes just a lot of cussing describing situations. He himself happens to be a product of a interracial marriage. He is a very good SPL but is a little heavy handed when he deals with the adults. Lets just say as a SPL of a boy led troop he lets the adults know he is in charge. He has stepped on a few toes.
  17. Again we are considered the top troop out of 45 troops in our district. He is getting plenty of adult leader interaction and He is very involved in the troop. I dare say he is far from being bored. I personally thinks he like to draw attention to himself. Period. You know look at me syndrome. He is stubborn and likes to get his way. The kids in the troop look up to him and he is a good kid. I explained to him that I believe that the loop thing is against BSA policy and he is considered out of uniform. I have explained that the younger kids look up to him and he needs to set an example by stic
  18. Let me make a clarification here. He wears a orange loop on his left shoulder and a green loop on his right shoulder. Two different color loops one on each shoulder. On page 159 of the SM hand book you find this "While scouters may wear the insignia to which they are entitled , a total display may not be in the best interest if the uniform looks overdecorated. Unauthorized insignia or incorrect wearing of authorized insignia is always wrong. Scouters must set the example for scouts in this matter. The SM who wears only his SM emblem, council or community strip,troop numeral and service star o
  19. I have a young man in my troop who wears 2 different shoulder loops. On one shoulder he wears an orange loop (NYLT) and on the other shoulder he wears a green loop. Is this normal and is there any BSA regulation that would specifically allow or disallow this? He also has been appointed (at the age of 16)as the District Committee Youth liaison and wears a District Committee Shoulder patch. How can he be on this committee when (Per BSA reg.) he can not be on a troop committee until he is 18?
  20. I do not dislike the boy or his father. As I stated as a kid he is OK but as a Scout he stunk. No I am not going to be or appoint anyone to be on the BOR. The Districts Eagle Advancement Chair will be on it along with 3 other SM's and a Youth Minister from the CO. Yes he will be questioned extensively. He is a charming lad and smart. He plays stupid but he isn't. In the past in BOR's when asked a question he says he is so nervous that he can not remember the answer. Well he is going to have all night to answer what he is asked. If you call this an inquisition so be it. We even have doubts tha
  21. This was a problem of our own making. We let it go to far. In all honesty as a kid he is OK, but as a scout he stunk. As it turns out the SM was there and he did sign off on the project being completed. He had talked to the man in charge of the facility that the work was done for. He was very pleased and actually more or less said that he was impressed with the boy. He said he met with him on several occasions about the project and that the boys Father was not present. One thing that irks me a little is the boys father put in almost as much time himself as the other participants did put toget
  22. As CC I am being asked to sign off on a Scouts Eagle project. I was there at the project and I really did not see him provide what I would call a leadership position to a great degree. His father has been the main thrust in the project. Besides that this kid does not care about scouting. His Dad bribed him with a car to stay in scouts. When he wears the uniform (shirt only) he kept it covered with a jacket or sweater. The day he helped with scouting for food he immediately removed his shirt and threw it in the back of his car when we arrived back at the church. I almost would rather resign as
  23. Last nighI posted a topic labeled "Parents as merit badge counselors" or something like that and got a couple of responses whuch I appreciated. Then I come in from work this afternoon the whole topic was removed. I do not understand. Explanation please????I would not post this here but do not know how to contact a moderator to ask this question. I know this post will also get deleted but at least I asked the question.
  24. I know that this probably has been addressed on this board before, but please humor me. We have a parent in our troop (Type A plus personality) who home schools his kids. He has signed up for over 20 merit badges ( several Eagle required) and teaches the merit badges at home as if they are "lesson's". At almost every COH his kids haul in the badges. Yes I realize that a portion of some merit badges requirements include family involvement and are to take place at a home setting. I also know that National has no rules limiting him to a certian number of badges he can counsel his kids on. Having
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