CCbytrickery

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$50 for change at each location. In a lockbox. If you can, have a 2nd lockbox hidden down in a popcorn box under the table, and when you get too much money in the donation jar or in the 1st lockbox, you transfer it to the second and note it on the sheets. I have sheets that have counts for both donations and popcorn money, and spots for both the incoming and outgoing parents to sign. Also, I had inventory sheets for the popcorn as well. It helped me figure out where I had 2 parents either pocket $ or lost it or ? last year. Tricksy, I am. The parents were asked to call me if someone didn't show--which happened on at least 6 occasions, and either the other kids stayed late, or my son went up to work. (He worked 12 90 minute shifts last year, because of this and lack of sign-ups---in our pack we don't give the boys part of the money, so this was him working to help the pack go.) I also would come by and pick up the money every so often, so we didn't have a large amount sitting around. Each time I did so, I noted it on the forms, and had the 2nd parent sign that I was taking the money. Paperwork always! I also keep balance sheets on the computer at home. It's a little more work for me, and I don't have any of them connected, so I have to enter numbers more than once, but it helps me balance where we're at. I have one that lists inventory (beginning of week, end of week, sales, etc.) and another for scout take home orders. One for scout financials--which I balance with the take home sheet. One thing I do like to do is to provide a table and chairs for the adults. We display one of each box on the table, along with the donation jar (and the lockbox is under adult hand all the time). Only adults in the chairs (I use my old camping foldups). I also provided a cooler of ice water and some cups. It gets hot here, and I didn't want anyone getting dehydrated. I also ask for NO SIBLINGS, but half the time they don't listen and bring them anyways--I really dislike it. I know that cub scouts are family oriented, but when the parents are being distracted by other kids, and not focusing on the situation at hand--the kids being unruly and running around, getting in the way of shoppers, for example--it doesn't look good for us at all.

There are certain locations you do not want to sell at. Here, it is at Winn Dixie stores. It seems the people who shop there are looking for low low prices, and they don't want to buy overpriced popcorn. We've sold at Kohls, and did ok. Not fantastic (much lower than the grocery store in the same complex--did both on the same day), but much better than at the WD. We've also done gas stations, and those were a nightmare--good for $5 camp cards, not $30 popcorn. Lowe's and Home Depot are good sellers as well, especially if you can get in all day. A lot of the people we've had buy at these locations are people that saw us earlier in the day, and came back after getting some cash or their checkbook. We do split the single bagged boxes into single bags. Seems we sell more that way--easier to part with $1 or $2 than it is with $20. Not supposed to, but we do. We also take donations--but no soliciting for them. You can have a jar or something on the table, but no asking for money. We tend to run about $100 a day in donations. One thing to remember, you don't want to have the money laying around. When the donation jar starts to get full, empty it but for a single dollar or some change. Don't have all your money in one place. We use two lockboxes per spot. One has a small amount of change ($30-40 in ones and fives) and is on the table for accessibility. The other has the remainder of the money (including donations, but those are put in a ziplock and kept separate); and that is kept in a box with popcorn. No children in the money boxes---the buyer hands the money to the kid, the kid hands the money to the adult, and if change is needed, just reverse the process. We also require one adult to sign before and after their shift--money must be counted by incoming and outgoing adults, as well as product counts. (We count the donation money as well, on it's own line on the spreadsheet.) We have had no product or money go missing in the last two years, doing this. (well, as far as we know--can't accurately say if donations are missing or not, but if they are, they are not for very much!) Scouts should be in full uniform (or if it's as miserable there as it is here sometimes, we allow pack tshirts instead--but only if it's above 95F or 90% humidity). Scouts stand. We do allow short breaks for a drink but then it's back to work. (Parents can sit in camp chairs.) Also, always always two deep leadership. Several years ago, we had a grandparent show up with her two grandsons to sell, and she passed out--no one else was there but her. Talk about a scary situation. If there isn't two deep, then the Kernal or assistants have to stay and cover the 2nd position! Parents dont' sell. Parents talk up the pack and BSA. We always have spare flyers about our pack at the table, in case someone wants the information. (pack website, CM name, phone number, where we meet at and when, plus some attention grabbers, like camping or archery). We encourage our parents to be in pack shirts as well (or uniform, if they are registered with us).

This is what our pack does: (YMMV) We take the extra 5% offered by council, for not getting the prizes. We do hand out the patches and the toys they send (last year was an type of nerf shooting gun--no more marshmallow shooters). We do not share fund with the scouts, for popcorn. We use the money to fund our pack events (at every pack meeting, we have something going on--Mad Science, Reptile guy, Santa, etc). It also absorbs some of the cost for camping, so we arent' charging $25 a person at each campout. We do purchase prizes. Top seller in each den receives a small tent (2 or 4 man). Top 3 sellers receive prizes--3rd place is a fishing pole/gear package; 2nd is a tent/camp chair/pad package, and 1st place is a bike/safety gear package. We may change prizes this year, but the last 2 years, this is what we've given. A small note--the top 3 sellers cannot win the den prizes--if the top 3 are all webelos 2, then the 4th top seller in the webelos 2 den wins the tent prize. We spend about 3% of our sales on this, so we are making 2% extra by doing our sales this way. We also hold a drawing for show n sells. Each time a boy works a sell, he gets a ticket in the drawing. We draw for the freebie prize the council gives us (the gun) as well as t shirts or other pack materials. (This is where the CM gets to clean out the garage, lol.) For selling, we only order limited product. Single serve popcorn boxes, Caramel corn with and without nuts, and single serve kettle corn. How much I order depends on how many sales we have set. This year, we have 6 4 hour slots plus 5 full day slots (7am-7pm). You can always use the extra to cover your take orders. Our take orders are run at the same time as SNS. However, we don't do SNS past the first two or three weekends. After that, the market is saturated, and people stop buying--they've either already bought or they did a take order. So, we know how much extra product we have by the turn in orders date. We defer payment until the last day due. One note: we make sure the parents understand that if they take the popcorn, we are to get the money back, not the popcorn. They are responsible for their orders. A few years ago, before we joined, a family sold a lot of popcorn. They had a couple of businesses sign the take order form for purchase, and told them they would pay at delivery, plus they had large orders from people. Come take order delivery time, the businesses were either closed or they refused delivery; most of the big deliveries were not sold and one family turned in over 3/4 of the popcorn presold. We recommend, gently, that any orders over $50 be paid for upfront (and preferably all of them are this way); and in the last two years, we've only had 2 scouts with unsold popcorn--and both were due to family members they thought they could trust to cover their order. We will happily take any money at any den meeting--the treasurer, CM and myself alternate times in our welcome center, so that it can be turned in, and a receipt given. (This message has been edited by ccbytrickery)

My .02: BSA will go one of two ways. It will either bend and change with the times--allowing openly gay scouts and leaders--and lose the religious/righteous OR it will become more secular and enclosed in its rulings and ideals, and it will chase away the more liberal, open-minded adults. Either way, the BSA will lose some good people. And gain some others. I would rather they bend and change. Mary and Nikki should have the same right to marry as Mr. CC and I do. I believe that MORALLY--it is important to show that solidarity of marriage between two people who love each other and are committing to a relationship together. I teach my kids open-mindness, kindness and compassion. If people can't understand that, well, that's their problem, not mine. A quick Hmmmm???? The mayor of Boston is fighting to not allow Chik-Fil-A in the city, because of the strict beliefs of the company--will they work to remove the BSA as well?

We gently encourage our parents to get as much of the uniform as they can comfortably afford. The pack provides the necker, slide and book. We ask the parents get the hat first, then shirt next, and then the belt. Pants/shorts if they can. When it comes to things like color guard or singing at Christmas at the local nursing homes, we require the complete uniform, but for other events, a pack tshirt will suffice.

Food: We plan the meal (CM and myself) and the CM does the shopping. We rotate den parents through cooking...Tigers usually get Sunday morning breakfast (leftovers, oatmeal, pastries, fruit) on the first few campouts. For a 2 night camp, we usually go like this--Friday night, on own for dinner but Web 2s make dutch oven cobblers for everyone; Sat. breakfast has some sort of meat, eggs, oatmeal, fruit, and one pastry per person; Sat lunch can range from sandwiches/chips/carrots and celery sticks/cookies to hot dogs/beans/chips/carrots and celery/cookies; Sat dinner is the big meal--we've done everything from chili to chicken fajitas, always with salad; Sat night s'mores for dessert. Cooking includes cleanup--and all parents in the den are either working the kitchen or corraling boys for those who are in the kitchen. We do not allow anyone to cook anything outside of the kitchen, and due to cross-contamination, we do not allow food that is not purchased by us in the kitchen. We've had allergies (one boy with milk, egg, soy, wheat, peanuts, all tree nuts and strawberries) and we shop and cook for them accordingly. Camp fires: Web 2s build the fire with their DL. We line a circle, and anybody (including adults) caught crossing that circle can be banished from the fire. We do a program, with skits and songs, and s'mores for all! Only one fire allowed in camp. Siblings: They are the parents responsibility. They are welcome to any and all activities, however we are not babysitters. The parents can work together and cover the sibs any way they wish (we had one mom stay behind during a hike with 5 little ones, and got them all to nap in the 90 minutes the boys were gone). The sibs are not allowed at knife, firebuilding or cooking areas. BSA: Quite a few people in our core group are BALOO trained. As leaders/committe, we do not allow ourselves to be in violation of the 2 deep rule with any boy except our own (and that's only at dinner time). We buddy up, and the boys have learned that if one goes to the restroom, they both go, and they have to let an adult know they are leaving to go. Zero alcohol tolerance (not even after scouts are in bed); smoking only by the dumpsters away from scout sight; no electronics (those will be confiscated) for scouts, and we encourage the adults to put away theirs as well (though it doesn't work, as I've posted before); etcc etc. Activities: Flag ceremonies every day--scouts and leaders must attend in full uniform. Everyone is required to be at these. We pick a belt loop or two that most of the boys have not worked on (or need again, in the Webs instance) and we plan activities for those. In our October campout, the Web 2s run a Bobcat clinic, and all new boys must attend to earn the Bobcat. We usually have games Sat morning, and hikes Sat afternoon, with some downtime before and after lunch, so they can just be kids and have fun. I always have a box with rainy time activities: card and board games, coloring books for little ones, Mad libs, those magic yes and no books you find at truck stops, etc. I also have a box for free time, with frisbees, balls, etc. DLs can also run things for their dens during den time, whatever they need to work on. No firearms at camp. Register: on time. Price: varies from campout to campout. October we only charge for food--usually $7-10 per person for the weekend, since we don't have to pay for the campsite. We usually subsidize part of the cost from pack funds, to help keep the cost low. The exception to this is our BIG MAY EVENT. Those are full cost, as they are a bit pricy. Pay: on time. We are moving to a "pay beforehand or risk not having a spot" for campouts and some events, and on events where we need to purchase tickets ahead of time (ballgames/movies) we are now in a "Pay beforehand or you will need to purchase for full price at the box office and won't be with the scout group". Too many "I'm coming" and failures to show, after we've put out the money on the tickets. We have a form that a lawyer parent did for us, that allows a parent to sign over their kid to another parent for a camping trip. This is the only time we allow a Wolf/Bear to sleep in a tent with another Wolf/Bear without an adult (they get their own tent). We do not allow Tigers to come without a parent. Webelos are sleeping in their own tents anyways (two to four in a tent), so we just need the form in case of emergencies.

While I haven't had the pleasure of taking boys on campouts without the families yet (next summer will come soon enough), I can say that I have had parents on the family campouts try some doozies. We have non-smoking, non-drinking family camps, and we've had to discuss both situations with adults at camp. They can smoke, by the dumpsters (where no scouts tred) and out of scout sight, and no drinking at all. I'm on my 2nd week of running dens at summer daycamps right now, and I have my rules. This week I have Webelos. The boys can grumble, but I am set and they will follow the rules or they can go home. We drink a minimum of 1/2 cup water at the end of the current activity and another minimum 1/2 cup when we get to the next activity. There is no discussion. They can drink or sit out the activity. And IF it's a "non-fun" activity that they are having to sit out (like weather), they also owe me time at a "fun" activity, like swimming or BB. Drinking fluids is NOT an option with me. This week alone, I have stopped 2 parents who have dropped off scouts with sodas in hand--handed the soda back to the parent and told them NO SODA ALLOWED IN MY DEN. One boy brought a soda in his lunch, and I confiscated that--gave him a capri sun (I always have extra snacks and drinks, for these reasons). One boy had his DS in hand as he got out of the truck--that went right back to mom and dad, with an admonation from me NO ELECTRONICS. Mom said "but he'll be bored and you won't want to deal with him." My response: He'll be bored and he will have to deal with me. Monday, he did get bored, at weather, just like the other boys--and he dealt with it. I had zero problems with him. I have one boy whose mom is working with another den. He left his lunch and pack with her for two days. I told him that if he didn't have it with him tomorrow, he was not going to be going swimming or doing bb/archery--it's not his mom's job to have his pack and lunch. Nor is it mine to make sure he has his stuff--I don't check on my son's stuff (Bear)--he packs his own lunch and gets his gear together before he goes to bed, and it's his job to grab it as we go out the door.

Our Web 2 den leader is also the troop's CC, our ACM, and our district Popcorn Chair. (busy guy!) He is very focused on the boys, and making sure they are ready to crossover--they camp with the troop once a month, and try to squeeze in a Web campout each month as well (November, January and March they don't, as we have pack campouts). Now, our new Web 1 DL? He moved up with the den, and truth be told, I don't think he's the right guy. Not one Web 1 attended any camps this summer--not day, resident or aquatics. He spent the October campout last year watching a game on his laptop. He wears sandals with socks (knee-highs) and color coordinates. He dislikes getting dirty. Web 1 DL does teach the boys a lot--but it's almost exclusively indoor work. They can write thank you letters and have impecable manners; and (in theory) set up camp, but they are the only den I've seen in 3 years that dpes not have their boys setting up the tents with the parents (or by themselves)--the parents do it while the boys sit and play video games or run around and do things that they should know not to do (rip bark off trees, throw rocks at each other, wander off out of bounds), etc. At the above-mentioned October campout, one of the (then) Bears was lost at midnight, because he wanted to stay out with the Webelos, who were allowed out unti ten. It took the parent until midnight to realize he was gone, because he was watching something on the DL's laptop. And the DL? He went to bed, knowing this scout was missing. I am pushing to get another ADL in this group, that will be able to fix some of this, but battling the CM and that DL over this now. Just removed the treasurer (who was another piece of work) so this is my 2nd phase of fixing our pack problems. Then I have to work on the new Wolf DL/ADL. Hopefully by January, I'll have all these ducks in a row.(This message has been edited by ccbytrickery)

We do a "welcome back pack" potluck. Pack provides the main course, each den is assigned a side dish/dessert/drinks. we do a slide show of the previous year, hand out awards earned over the summer, and get out information on recruitment nights, upcoming September activities (popcorn, ugh), and recognize boys who have done things over the summer that help the community. Things like that. New boys are welcome at the event--that's how my son was drawn in. LOL It's so hot and humid here, and we need to do an indoor event--we save the outdoor ones for October-March. (hooray for Florida)

The spouse finished working on the pool, so it's filling now. Silly TS Debby put us behind two weeks. Grocery shopped, and then we relaxed the rest of the day. Wtched fireworks on tv, because we had lightning coming through.

Not a Scout story, but... When my daughter was about 7, we lived in a very small town in Northern Nevada. We bought her first pair of water shoes, since we were going out on the lake with some friends, and they recommended she have some (bottom of lake was kind of rocky near the shore). We happily spent the day out on their boat, tubing and whatever. Got home and she took those water shoes off. DEAR LORD. The smell from those brand new shoes (worn only that day) was horrendous. I put them outside on the back porch of our apartment (which overlooked a large open space--we could see the town from our place, but it was a good 10mile drive to get there), and decided to air them out overnight. Sent her to the showers and made her wash her feet 4 or 5 times before I decided the stink was gone. The next morning, those water shoes were gone. I'm still not sure if the upstairs neighbor decided that they were too much to bear, and threw them away, or if an animal came up and grabbed them, thinking it was a dead rat or something. They were soo nasty.

LOL Well, I'm not a procrastinator. I'm the person that is where they are supposed to be at least 15 minutes ahead of schedule. I'm the one that wants to schedule Disneyworld from hotel and meals right down to potty breaks. Good thing I'm married to a procrastinator; we level each other out. I recommend to all our parents to fill out the health forms on their computer and just print copies as needed. Part C, I ask them to make a copy and send it with the camp forms (for the Webelos). Never send originals to anyone in the BSA for anything.

We don't give our Scouts the funds from the Popcorn sales. We use the funds to cover costs for Pack meeting activities (Mad Science, zoo or reptile visits, etc--last year we had the 501st Squadron**), cover partial costs of camping (so instead of it being $25 a person for the weekend, we charge $12), belt loops/pins/etc.. Our pack dues range from $45-55, depending on scout level, but include a book, necker, and t-shirt. we have a good retention rate (last year we did lose 14 Tigers out of 28, 3 Wolves out of 18, 2 Bears out of 12 and 2 Webelos-out of 36--we figured out the problem with the Tigers too late, the DL was not prepared, late to every meeting, and no one brought it our attention...I was running popcorn last year as well, and I just wasn't paying attention to everything as well as I should have been). We don't have our pack recruiting date yet (we have to coordinate with the school and the council, but it's always before mid September). Our start up Schedule is set like this: August, welcome back meeting. We do a potluck (pack provides main course, dens are assigned other dishes--sides, desserts, etc). Do a slide show of the previous year, talk about the summer activities, etc. We hand out any belt loops/pins/etc that were earned over the summer, and all the returning boys receive their book and necker. (New boys receive their book and necker when the parent pays for the BSA registration; Pack dues are set to be paid the next month, to give the parents a bit of help financially.) Paperwork filled out and turned in, t-shirt orders are taken, etc. The next week, we start den meetings. We do our recruiting, and have a program prepared for the parents so they know what they are looking at. We then hold a parents meeting the week after recruiting, to get the parents involved in the program--sign up for spots on activities, commitee open positions, etc; and it gives the new boys a chance to meet the old boys and their leaders without a parent to run interference. A week later, we jump into popcorn. Hooray. We do a 1 night campout in early October--introduce new scouts to our pack camping rules and routine. Our Webelos run a Bobcat activity, so that the new boys can get their Bobcats and start working on their level. ** http://www.501st.com/index.php

My son walked by yesterday and out of the blue, said "You didn't see anything." I have no idea what he had been up to, and I don't think I want to.........

Being a taxpayer has nothing to do with BSA. They don't have to let you form a new pack. Their organization, their rules. Change councils, join a pack in the other council area. We live in one council area, but are registered with another council, because we like that Pack. (The council where we live seems to have been control and workings than the one we are affilated with, but the Pack is the one we want to be with, so we deal.)

I am too soft hearted to make the boys suffer for their parents laziness. I know we should just say "too bad, so sad", but I can't. So, I would tell the parents that they have until Wednesday but that they must pay a 10% late fee. So if the camp is costing $100, they owe you $10--to be paid when they turn the form in Wednesday. No late fee, no forms, sorry but Bobby can't go. And I would be very clear with Bobby--"sorry scout--your mom did not get the paperwork in. next time, remind her daily until she does so."

chocolate hot cheetohs soda video games legos repellents: soap hot water girls kisses Oh, wait--I thought you meant Cub Scout Bears. My DH says a bear can be attracted to anything--they might just be curious or they may know that if they find "that smell", there is food there. Best bet is to bag everything.(This message has been edited by ccbytrickery)

We use Packmaster. We are adding the financial one this year.

Problem is, we're only getting one side of the story, and some of it just seems...off. Take your son, put him in a different den in a different district. Voila--No more issues with the SM. You need to Step down, do not be involved in scouting right now. You weren't added to the Charter after 2004 (if I'm understanding this correctly)--which I find odd that you let it go this long--my husband and I--and our son--receive registration cards every year after rechartering, and if you weren't receiving the yearly knots or accolades that go along with being a leader---why did you not speak up? Why didn't you ask the other leaders when the meetings were? After a few months of this negative behavior, why didn't you deal with it then? Why did the CC not step up and ask you about missing meetings? We have one DL that I would happily ship off to another Pack--he is too, well, prissy. Doesn't get dirty, doesn't let his stepson get dirty, does camping but sits around watching sporting events on his laptop instead of interacting with the boys, etc. His leading style is definitely different from my husbands--but neither one is 100% right or wrong. But he is mostly effective with his scouts--they are learning what they are supposed to, advancing ontime--so I just let the other stuff go. Perhaps there are too many leaders, or maybe they just didn't like your leading style. Maybe this CM decided that you were not an effective enough leader, and felt he needed to take over the den. Or maybe he's just an ass. Either way, the time to make a fuss about it was then, not now. I still don't see what the Mayor or State senator could do; just that move there makes me go "Are we dealing with a prima donna momma here?". Just stop and let it go.

Tough to read. Use paragraphs and less caps. Sounds like you are more upset over the way you are being treated than your son not getting rank or being treated differently. If you don't like it, leave the troop. If you don't like the way your son is treated, have him leave the troop. Simple. Everything is just heresay. No documentation = no proof. BSA says stop and walk away, you should probably heed their words. seriously, the Mayor and state senator? What do you think they could do? The BSA is not some "old boys club" (that would be Woodbadge and Order of Arrow, lol)--I have serious doubts about this entire story. I have to say, though, that if some guy was verbally abusive or touched me, he'd probably be spitting out his teeth, because my husband would NOT tolerate that crap. And if he didnt' handle it, I would.

Our ACM is involved with our troop, and he swears by swimmers towels...the moisture wicking ones. He says they dry very quickly and get the wet off with minimal fuss and are lightweight. Skip the towel for after swimming--air dry in the summer sun! Skip shaving--you're at camp--heck, I'm a girl and I don't shave at camp. Buy travel sized toiletries and medicines(deodorant, soap; if you must have your hair cleaned, you can get the spray in shampoos and they work just fine). Skip the hard sided first aid kit; you can get a small pouch and stock with a couple band-aids, alcohol and iodine pads, gauze pads, paper tape, tweezers and folding scissors, and maybe an ace bandage. Don't skip the extra footwear--your feet will thank you after being in hiking boots all day...change socks twice a day/ and underwear once. You can wear one shirt during the day for hikes (change daily) and another at night (wear all week) once you clean off; shorts can be worn at least 2 days (get zip-offs).

I ordered our nametags from quartermasterstore.com. They are 1X3. Ordered one fro my spouse, decided to order myself one (and him another, because he loses things like that constantly), and then almost everyone else in our leadership group decided they wanted them as well! Less than 3 weeks turn-around (I cannot remember the exact timing, but it was fairly quick over the holiday season). We got the "custom alder tags" because I like the wood grain; we have the Cub scout symbol on there, and with magnetic backing (instead of a pin).

I am right there with you. I send emails to my husband's den about meetings, things the scouts need to do at home, etc. I get maybe 4 or 5 responses--out of 14. I send emails to the den leaders about committee meetings, things that coming up that need to be staffed (looking for volunteers), etc. Of the 4 den leaders, 2 get their emails out (and one of them is because I send them myself--see above). One set of DL/ADL can't bother themselves to attend committee meetings, help with activities, etc; another DL/ADL combo are just as absent, but if things aren't set up the way the DL wants them, he throws a hissy fit. I send emails to the parents about upcoming activities, like campouts, fund raisers, etc. I get maybe dozen emails in return. We had (before the Webe 2 left) 82 boys in our pack. Down to about 50, with dropouts and crossover--lost one entire Tiger den this year (except for the leader's son) because he wasn't planning, not prepared at the meetings, and no one would speak up to say what was going on until it was too late. Every time I asked how things were going, if he needed help, I was told it was all fine; and the parents were the same. It's not like it's hard to find me. My email/phone are on our pack website, they are handed out on a paper along with all the DL/CM information, and I speak to every family when I see them--I spend most of the den meetings at the "welcome center" at the church we meet at, so if the parents need to find me, I'm there. (CM is usually there also, so why aren't the parents speaking up?) We also hand out flyers at meetings (den and pack) for events. AND I make phone calls, when warranted--like if I haven't seen a particular scout in a few weeks. (I check with the DL to see if they know what's up, and if not, I call.) some people just don't respond to anything. And yes, we do have the problem of last minute signups, last minute money drop-off for dues/fundraisers, etc. This year, if they haven't signed up by the date set by the committee, then the family doesn't get to go. I think that if you are given 4 weeks notice (or more, because we post all activities on our calendar on the website) via email/flyers, and the cut off date is set a week from the activity, you should be able to say yea or nay by then. This is going to be a big thing, because in May, we're going to sleep on an aircraft carrier for our big May event, and we have to have the final numbers in by March. If there is space later, we can add more, but only if there is space--we can't just add people for the next two months randomly--and adding on is not just our call this time. /shrug So I need to get the word to the parents and get them in the habit of not delaying NOW!

http://boyscouttrail.com/webelos/webelos-scouts.asp I usually give my parents the link to this website. I like the way it's laid out. Lots of luck!