johnsch322

The first part of this paragraph is a bit unsettling. @ThenNowand other adult survivors like myself are not taking camps from kids or causing higher costs rather it was the actions of sexual predators that are the cause and the neglect of the organization to put proper controls in place in a timely manner. I do like the second part of your paragraph. The second person I told of my abuse was my teen age daughter. I wanted her to know that if something had or did happen to her not to be ashamed of it.

From Tim Kosnoffs Twitter account: "One more impressive thing about Judge Silverstein is that she is a hard worker. She actually read that 700 page font size 4 Plan in its entirety because she spotted the $1500 special reviewer spot reserved for Carey. I’ll bet her dog went and hid under the bed when she spotted it" "None of the overpaid bankruptcy suits raised it. She did it sua sponte. Smart, hard working, courageous and ferociously independent." "I take back every mean derogatory tweet about Judge Silverstein. She was magnificent today. She showed true judicial courage in her rulings today denying ER’s and AVA’s attempt to silence survivors and me. And she fired her former chief judge Carey as a mediator. Bravo Judge."

Wear it with pride!!

Even Tim Kosnoff is singing praises to her today.

Today I received a call from the law firm who is my representation, and it was in direct contrast to the calls that I heard from KR's firm and the coalition to their clients. I was informed that they had not received my ballot and I told her that I sent it directly to Omni. She asked if I had a receipt and I told her yes, I sent it by registered mail. She said no problem they just wanted to make sure that I voted. Not one mention from her about how I voted. If everyone could follow ethical rules this procedure would have gone faster. PS I did tell her at the end how I voted (reject) and told them to keep up the good work. Moderators I put this here since it is an issue yesterday and today in front of the judge.

I think the failure down the road is a very real possibility. I think that failure will happen because the BSA will not stay relevant to young kids interests which will cause more decline in membership. It will not be the cost of membership (parents pay thousands for their kid's other interests) but what children's expectations are. They are looking for more instant gratification, they are looking for more online interactions and I do not see BSA as presently structured meeting their needs. As the current teen population who are very much into online gaming etc. move into adulthood they will see less benefit for their children to know how to start a campfire without matches etc. I already have coworkers who are in their twenties telling me how they spend time with their 8 and 9 year olds gaming with them.

If what Eisenberg and his firm is doing is unethical/illegal (not sure) I wonder if a claimant or group of claimants can sue his firm?

From Tim Kosnoffs Twitter EISENBERG ROTHWEILER harassing survivors who voted to Reject to change their votes. Judge needs to stop this. There is an audio recording of a call from an Eisenberg attorney calling an AVA claimant in Oklahoma who voted to reject the plan trying to persuade him to change his vote. I did not know how to copy the recording but it is shocking to hear.

After almost 55 years I do not remember any of the names of my fellow scouters. But I do remember my perpetrator, how old I was and where it occurred.

So are they saying they have so much roster material that they can only find 5% because it is a monumental task or that there is only 5% of claimants in their data bases?

5% seems extremely low. That would mean only about 4,250 were actually scouts. Wonder how they came to that number? If the troops have lost that number of rosters it does not look good.

Please never stop!!

I would not go that far....it still has us🙂

From my view point that it seems like a dangerous proposition for the BSA to put all their eggs in the coalition basket. With the attacks on the coalition as to the veracity of their claims even by other claimant attorneys it sure looks like something that might well back fire on them. I wonder if anyone in the BSA is having second thoughts?

The TCC says they have not attended mediation talks because they have not been informed of date and times. Is this true and would it be legal to not inform them?

Sent my vote in..they will have it on Thursday!!

Or BSA National only with no pennies on the dollar insurance settlement and let LC’s and CO’s fend for themselves.

Which goes right back to the purpose of the bankruptcy was never about “fair and equitable compensation” it was and is still limiting the amount that BSA would have to pay.

At the time of filing the bankruptcy and the wording equitable compensation was used there was no Hartford deal, no LC deal and no CO deal and BSA offered up 250M so 250M/ 5,000 = $50,000 250M/ 10,000 = $25,000 And that was because they were facing 181 lawsuits at the time and wanted to put those suits on hold.

Broke and dislocated my little finger in elementary school. We were playing dodgeball with a red schoolyard ball. Went to my Cub Scout meeting after school and the Den mother was horrified by my finger sticking out sideways from my hand. When my mother picked me up I told her I just needed to soak it and it would be OK. I got a one night stay in the hospital and a big cast in Wiesbaden Germany.

"Equitable compensation" to survivors has never been the goal of the BSA in this bankruptcy. The only goal that the BSA had was to escape from underneath the liability for the least amount of money possible. The upper limit of 5 to 10K of potential victims was arrogance on their part. If that truly was the amount that they had to pay it still would not have been 150-300k payment on average just do the math...225K (average of 150 to 350) X 10,000 = 2.25 Billion. Initially BSA told LC's and CO's they would not have to contribute and they negotiated with Hartford for a max of 650M so where was that money coming from? "Equitable compensation" are just public relations terms trying to make the public feel for the BSA.

I agree. The TCC would have endorsed the first proposal if the Hartford deal was not included. That proposal had even less money in it from the LC’s so LC’s would have been better off. But no the BSA sided up with the Coalition thinking it would be an easier yes vote and my opinion will it will end up a no. This will cost not BSA more money but will hurt the LC’s.

There are not 98,000 claimants the recognized figure is 82,500. Even if every one of those cases were able to go to court not all would get an award. Not all of those awards would be for a million. And some of the awards would be upwards of a million. Insurance companies have the money but the BSA cut a deal with Hartford which set the bar for other insurance companies. Out of the whole settlement offer that is what angers me personally the most. If the insurance companies are not part of the settlement there will be much more for survivors.

So in your opinion I am only entitled to treatment for emotional and physical injuries? Nothing for pain and suffering for the last 54 years? Nothing for a repaired sphincter that has trouble holding back fecal matter? The docs say the sphincter is as good as it will get. I have never said there was enough assets to pay what might be accomplished if the BSA was not in Bankruptcy. What I will say is that LC’s CO’s and Insurance company’s are not contributing enough to get released from their liabilities. I am sure that you hope it will get approved as I hope it won’t.

As you are referring to my post I will tell you that I have read multiple post from multiple people discounting what survivors are due under the law. We are due compensation for pain and suffering as would an accident victim would be and anyone saying less is saying we as survivors are due less than others. There is no one throwing money at survivors. As I have said this is a line of thought I have read from multiple posters.