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Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Things are frustrating and difficult. It takes much longer for awards to be processed and returned, other national services are delayed, and property is disappearing. So what do we do? Whatever it takes to deliver the program; if our local camp goes away we camp in a friendly farmers field, swim in his lake and catch his fish. That may not be easy but it can be done! Scout On my friends 😉 -
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Oh, I completely and emphatically AGREE! I have said from the beginning that Scouting may be forced to go back to the way they were. By that I mean: troops doing their own summer camp program; units gathering up on their own for fun and fellowship; friendly sharing of resources; smaller OA Lodges; less expense program wide; more unit individuality; and this list goes on. We will have to pick up whatever pieces are left and SCOUT ON. This won't be easy, but I think its worth the effort. -
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Right from wrong =`within policy and guidelines or not. Zeeeeshhhh. -
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Ok, reality check: The BSA is doing everything they can to place all liability on the volunteers and COs. There are so many policies and rules in place it's hard to tell right from wrong. Individual councils are having to provide the BSA with bunches and bunches of money. District's and councils don't really have enough units to sustain them. Long time members are simply stepping away by the thousands. Schools are refusing to allow recruitment. Positive public perception is falling. The price of registration, summer camp, high adventure or national events are prohibitive in cost, and p -
I'm not surprised that our young ladies are doing well. I was the Advisor of an Explorer Post for 20 years. Whenever a girl joined the Post, with very few exceptions, they became fully engaged and within three years rose to the rank of Explorer Captain. I expect to see the girls excell and achieve a high level of success.
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I was an Explorer Post Advisor for 20 years and am not surprised that our young ladies are doing well. When a girl joined our post, with very few exceptions, they became fully engaged and within 3 years rose to the rank of Post Captain. I expect we will see a lot of exceptional echievement in the future from our girls.
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Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Right now I have neither a troop or pack. I have the distinct privilege of serving as our OA Lodge Advisor and chairman of our district Eagle Board of Review, which keeps me very busy and things are well. Thanks for asking. -
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I wasn't talking about anything specific or unique to any council, I was referring to the organization. Volunteers are volunteering elswere, membership is very low, property is being sold, employees are leaving and unfortunately the list goes on and on. I think, I THINK, that Scouting has lost the trust and confidence of the people and the real glue holding things together is the good name and reputations of adults who are encouraging others to hang on, and this is truly a local issue. If I recall correctly, membership has decreased from two million to 770,000 in the last couple of years. -
I guess I'm the only one who thinks thats its impractical and even impossible to legitimately earn every merit badge in just over a year. I have seen Eagle Scouts who can't build a fire, tie a knot, or cook a meal. I have also heard kids say that they can get a quick military promotion by earning Eagle. Those who do the promoting expect those Eagle Scouts to know something and if they don't they find themselves in a less then favorable position. Does anyone remember when an "Eagle Scout is a First Class Scout who has earned a specific number of merit badges?"
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If a person is educated in a specific area and has practiced that field professionally then I would consider that person an expert. Weather the field be in medicine, law enforcement, or nuclear energy. Some merit badg councilors can get by with reading the book and covering the subject and doing the best they can, but others just can not. I wouldn't want Mr. Jones teaching on the subject of lifesaving, welding, or firearms unless he is truly qualified to do so.
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Ok,that's wonderful and I hope they were meaningful, met a need and you had a good time doing them😉
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Well, I agree that they can be really successful engaging in one activity. But I don't understand how a expert in every subject covered in the merit badge program can be located, all of the requirements met, and accepted by that expert who is a registered merit badge counselor. Hmmmmm..................Environmental Science-Welding-Motorboating-Climbing-Personal Management-Rifle Shooting???????,
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Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Sadly, after all these years, the Boy Scouts of America has simply "run it's course" and is nearing the end of it's useful existence. Then dump a truckload of negativity on the tracks and the problems continue to grow. Anyway, with today's virtual world, academic pressure, extracurricular activities, negative peer pressure, it may be that most kids just want to stay at home and relax. -
First, I would like to say that in my experience Wood Badge and Sea Badge are worth attending and are both rewarding and fun. To validate this point, I have attended 3 Wood Badge courses as a participant: one was "the old course" in 1982; the next was "WB for the 21st Century"; and the third was a course provided by the National Council. They were all very different and they were all great. I've also helped with several courses, and attended Sea Badge. In each case ther were those who really agonized over their Ticket or Logbook. I would suggest to all that you keep your goals simple and f
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In 50+ years of Scouting I have only met one young man who earned every merit badge. This young man is exceptional in every way and is on his way to the Olympics. At the time, he was an older tean and had been in Scouting for years. If he couldn't find a registered and legitimate merit badge councilor in his area he would travel to other parts of the country to find one. Now, it seems that earning every merit badge has become the norm and I just read where two Eagle Scouts from the same troop have accomplished this. I also read where one Scout did this in just over a year. Wow, thats i
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Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Ideological view of what Scouting is. You lost me on that. Whose Ideological views? The general public; volunteers; professionals; parents; or most importantly, the kids? It's a simple concept that kids want to have fun and be entertained. They aren't too interested is being in school and learning lessons on their free time. I'll not bore yall justifying this opinion, but please accept it as my own. If I do what I am supposed to do as a Scouter, I am the facilitator and give the kids what they want and need to have fun. Then I slip in some leadership opportunities and even some tips on -
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Outside of an Eagle board of review I have never heard a kid say they joined Scouts to " become a fine leader"; "learn to be self reliant"; "learn important lessons that will help me through my life's journey" or any of the other grand ideas that many Scout leaders focus on. Nooooooo, instead I hear things like " to camp out"; "so I can have a knife"; "to go swimming"; "to go to summer camp"; "to mess with fire"; or simply " to have FUN." I just can't help to wonder how many young people are very disappointed and just walk away because they didn't get what they thought they would get. -
You just don't get it, carry on my patchy friends and beware of the Patch Police!
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I give patches away every chance I get and I enjoy the responses of the kids. In the very rare occasion that for some reason (ie: getting a lodge flap from every lodge in our section before reorganization) I committed the capital offense of trading with kids. I assure yall that everyone I swapped with got "good patches" and were satisfied. In patch trading lingo, they got good patches for patches that weren't so good. Like I said, to me, patches have no value other then to make the kids happy.
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Oh KKKKKKKKKKKKK, let's try this again. First, I know all about patches and how to get them maid. To explain the point of this post I'll try again. The BSA is loosing members, employees, volunteers, and entire councils are disappearing. The required fees have skyrocketed and have made it impossible for some to participate. They have initiated the "Camp Manager" requirement for council sponsored events; YPT is required but often times it's impossible to complete because of computer problems; they sunk a lot of money in the Summitt Reserve to include huge and beautiful training facilities
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Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
Outside of an Eagle board of review I have never heard a kid say they joined Scouts to " become a fine leader"; "learn to be self reliant"; "learn important lessons that will help me through my life's journey" or any of the other grand ideas that many Scout leaders focus on. Nooooooo, instead I hear things like " to camp out"; "so I can have a knife"; "to go swimming"; "to go to summer camp"; "to mess with fire"; or simply " to have FUN." I just can't help to wonder how many young people are very disappointed and just walk away because they didn't get what they thought they would get. -
Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts suffer huge declines in membership
Mrjeff replied to Eagle1993's topic in Issues & Politics
I think you guys are right on the money. I think that there is way too much focus on teaching lessons and building leaders when the focus should be on having fun outside. -
You're rigt and I apologize for causing such a "ruckus." The whole point of the analogies was to say that I think with the whole thing including loss of membership, increase in fees, dedicated Scouters with a whole lot of time, talents, and treasure invested are just walking away. Such a shame. You would think that "they" would have bigger and more pressing issues other then weather we can put feathers on a turtle, or not.
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I didn't mention one of those things so I guess these changes bother you? Another set of ruffled feathers.....my goodness! I voiced my opinion, weather you agree or disagree makes no difference to me but negative comments, guilt trips, or shaming won't change my opinion, but does help reinforce my thinking. Thank you for your feedback.
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Please don't even think you know what I do or do not understand or be so pretentious as to tell me to do anything. I am allowed to voice my opinion and that is what I've done. You don't have to agree but I do think you should keep your judgemental yet unsubstantiated comments to yourself. My opinion is based on 50+ years of Scouting. I can legitimately claim 3 generations of Eagle Scouts, so I think I'm entitled to my opinion. There always is someone who gets their feathers ruffled and feels the need to say just how wrong someone else is or what they know 9r don't know. Thank you for your o