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Everything posted by Mrjeff

  1. Wow, the Council Executive Board members don't wear long trench coats and carry classified documents in briefcases as they slip through thick fog covered streets on their way to mysterious gatherings. I would suggest finding a board member and voicing your concerns. Just talk to them, you won't be tried for Boy Scout Treason and you may find the answers to your questions.
  2. Leave the idea of a code of conduct alone. Tackel issues with the light of the Scout Law and Oath.
  3. Actually its up to the Council at this point.
  4. I'm talking about Council Executive Board. Until the reorganization the COR were members of the board mutual most don't know that, if its still that way?
  5. At the risk of being burned at the stake I will interject a couple of things. Maybe there are just too many adults trying to do the SMs job; next, dad A may just focusing on his son and is blind to other problems that the boy is having, including behavior and respect; contrary to current doctrin Scouting 8s not for everyone, there are rules and expectations and everything is not all about you. There appears to be influences afoot that a Scout troop is not going to fix. Three sons and a grandson in Scouting and I NEVER tolerated disrespect directed toward an adult, and that goes for everybo
  6. Unless there was a recent change the CORs are members of the Executive Board. As the OA Lodge Advisor I am also a member as is our Lodge Chief. Our board is welcoming, receptive to suggestions, and just a good bunch of guys. They also treat our Chief as an equal and are receptive of his ideas. I consider myself fortunate and blessed to belong to such a fine group of ladies and gentlemen. I would say that if anyone outside of the board has an issue or concern they could contact our CE or a board member and would be welcome as a guest.
  7. Most importantly and my priority, HAVE FUN & ENJOY YOURSELF๐Ÿ˜„
  8. There's a great old book out there "Silver Bullets" that has a bunch of team building games that don't take much to set up and are easy to understand. Best wishes with your course๐Ÿ˜€
  9. Also, heaven forbid, that the kids should tend to their own interpersonal relationships without adult interference. They should never be allowed to take care of their own problems and should be permitted to voice their displeasure when offended. Although that's not real life. I know of one young Scout who was a "bully" and he enjoyed picking on everyone. There was little adult intervention and one day Mr Bully picked on the wrong kid. Mr Bully tried to hit Wrong Kid with a stick; Wrong Kid grabbed the stick, snatched it away then lifted Mr Bully off of his feet and "placed" Mr Bully onto
  10. We went from grades and a code of conduct to bullying. Reading, writing, and arithmetic are academic and Scouting is far more then accademics and uses a different learning modality then most students get in school. If you want to restrict something try using the phone, video games or television but not Scouting. As far as a code of conduct, if those who are refusing to follow the basic rules of Scouting, they aren't going to follow an extra set of rules made up by some well meaning committee. If they aren't following the Scouting rules then they are not Scouting. In my opinion an extra
  11. TRIAL!!!??? What in the world? It sounds like this has turned into a chest thumping contest! When people build a kingdom and think that its their way or the highway trouble is sure to follow. I bet you have some kind of advancement committee at the District and Council level. At least there is a group that oversees the Eagle boards. These are the folks who take care of these kind of issues in our district and Council. These guys, in my experience, are impartial and knowledgeable. They are also highly respected in the Scouting community, and if they come together to look into an issue,
  12. You could ask local cops, firemen, or even judges to sit on an occasional board.
  13. Wow, there seems to be a lot of premature judging going on. Again, I am not arguing my credentials or experience but I have spent some time on the ole shooten range. It doesn't matter if it's a Marine Corps range, a law enforcement range, a private range or a Scout Camp range, eventually there will be an accidental discharge, plain and simple. Most aren't as serious as this, but they do happen. I will reserve judgment and blame until I get to hear the rest of the story.
  14. I once went to summer camp where one of our guys finished his 500 word Environmental Science essay. He was given a partial because his essay wasn't "good enough", so I stepped up to bat. When the Ecology Director told me that the paper met the requirement but wasn't good enough for the camp I became more determined to assist this Scout. I spoke to the Camp Director who agreed that if the paper met the requirement the requirement was met. The Ecology Director was not pleased, but he was told to sign the card because I was correct. One small victory for that little guy, but I always give th
  15. I think the whole idea of using grades to determine eligibility is overreach and should never be considered. You may have an academically underachieving young person and the best thing they have going is Scouting. As far as a code of conduct, BOLDERDASH, Scouting has a well established code of conduct, the Scout Law. Throw in the Scout Oath and the Guide to Safe Scouting and you have all you need. Why reinvent the wheel? Just use what is already in place.
  16. Hey all of you minimalist Scouters out there. There is one conciliation for you. After all of us old goats head to the great council fire in the sky, you just won't have to worry about knot wearing too many knots. A whole pile of the little buggers have been retired so unless you have been around a long time, they just ain't available any more๐Ÿคซ
  17. Jeeeeezzzzzzz....................I am not going to discuss my credentials or Scouting position. I will say that in our district and Council the BEBEFIT OF THE DOUBT IS ALWAYS IN FAVOR OF THE SCOUT..................................PERIOD....NUFF SAID........END OF CONVERSATIO ...............it's also understood that the Merit Badge Councilor is the subject matter expert and if that expert says its done, it's done. My two cents๐Ÿค”
  18. ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚Welllllllllllll..........I would never, I say never ever...put stuff on my pants๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜…๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‰
  19. Somewhere in my huge pile of Scout stuff I still have my first uniform with red piping around the pockets of the trousers and collar less shirt. I love those old OD uniforms. I hated the change and wore one until it didn't fit. If I could find a xx adult uniform I would still wear one. I have a bunch of newer uniforms but would go retro in a flash. Along with a "General Patten" pattern of knots I also pin on two Eagle Scout Dad pins and one Eagle Scout Grandfather pin. I have obtained a RETIRED strip and after I complete my current tour of duty I'm going to put it on right under my TRAINE
  20. Yea, yea, yea, if thou wouldst adorn thyself with tutu, heals of spikes, speedo, or string bikini proceed without delay! Trouble not yourselves with guides, laws, rules, suggestions or anything that imposes on the right to self expression, comfort or other desire that ye may have in the pursuit of happiness!
  21. Welllllll....if you CAREFULLY read the guide you will also see that once official always official and the flamboyant among us need knot remove knots if the number exceeds the 9 knots. Also the whole guide is n a suggestion and an encouragement without being a thou shall and thou shall knot. Therefore, yea I declare that the insignia guide is truly a guide and not a law! So go ye therefore, ye readers and intrepreters of you sacred guide and adorn yourselves to the extent your heart, conscience and treasure trove may allow. Or, according to the dictates of this sacred parchment, leave them
  22. There are lots of opinions concerning uniforms. At one time the BSA uniform was strictly regulated and required. Does anyone remember the very old Woodbadge uniform requirements and inspections? Gradually it evolved into bieng encouraged and suggested. If one carefully reads the official insignia rules they will find that " once official always official" is the standard. This is particularly important concerning those controversial little colored scraps of clouth, the square knot. Not so long ago there was no limit to the number of square knots that are appropriate. With the latest upda
  23. I started this thread and like I said, if a woman presented herself in a revealing bathing suit people would have been all over it. If a man showed up in a speedo bathing suit there would have been outcry, if white men showed up wearing white robes someone would have called the police, how about a t shirt bearing a swastika 50 people would have voiced their disdain. How about addressing one of these in reference to the ballerina. There were many who saw this that spoke up about it but most are afraid of being offensive. Well, people who saw him were offended and I was one of them. I cha
  24. You have clearly missed the point. Again, if a female scout or scouter wore a string bikini there would be a public outcry but a kid wearing tights showing off his backside and frontside is just fine? Ok, if thats the case DROP THE STANDARD and everyone wears what they want. Let the ladies wear the DasynDukes and halter tops, guys can wear speedo bathing suits, and everything goes. BSA is trying to gain members and those representing the BSA should present a positive first impression. I wonder how many managers, supervisors and executives would turn a blind eye to an employee dressing in
  25. This is starting to go sideways. So, let's be specific, When I started this discussion I was talking about a national event, that is inherently expensive. If someone is attending this type of an event, I'm pretty sure they have a uniform. At this event there was a uniform standard that was established, so, if you are going to pay the fees and attend this event, abide by the standard. Your other choice is to not attend so you are no longer committed to following the rules. This has nothing to do with individual units, consessions, or those who can't afford to purchase uniforms. My good w
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