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  1. What you have described is why BSA is culpable.
  2. I think your view also depends on whether you believe BSA shares some of the responsibility for the abuse with the perpetrators. I and many others do. Because of several lawsuits and settlements, BSA has told us, under protest, a little bit about how they have historically handled this issue. That's how the Ineligible Volunteer Files were made public. But there has been almost zero transparency since then or apart from that. At the time the BSA declared bankruptcy, I believe some 1200 credible lawsuits were pending nationwide in communities large and small. Who knows what evidence would have
  3. All 4th graders in your pack are eligible for a Kids Outdoors National Parks pass for the year. They and up to three people (family members?) with them have free access to National Parks, certain features, and a long list of other federal properties such as historic sites and preserves. So, not only can your Webelos get in free but so can their siblings in other ranks. You may have already known about this but just in case not...
  4. I am always skeptical of any studies or survey results cited by BSA. They often select or guide results to skew towards supporting a preconceived course that BSA leadership wants to follow. It's more likely that BSA thought it could get more money and increase membership rolls by pushing the starting age lower. There are plenty of studies that could support an opposite approach, more along the lines of how UK scouting does it, or even limiting it longer to a more introductory approach like 4-H does with its Cloverbud program K-3. It's worth noting 4-H has six million youth members. There may
  5. Most of the boys Sandusky abused he met through the organization he supported, called the Second Mile. He used it as a cover to reach boys. The circumstances were more similar to scouting than most youth sports. Things vary widely across the nation and by individual experience, but from what I've seen as a coach myself in a couple sports and having kids involved in multiple sports from rec to elite travel, random adults do not have the same access to athletes as they do in scouts. Most parents understand sports -- how it is coached, played, and scored -- unlike scouting, and they are avid part
  6. BSA doesn't though, unless you're lucky enough to be in the right unit in the right council. It couldn't keep my sons interested long term, and they are intrepid outdoors kids. My oldest just went to Svalbard by himself on a trip he organized solo over spring break.
  7. Ok thanks. I don't think that's what I was thinking of then. Someone like Sebastian Junger or someone like him is attached to it.
  8. This documentary is one of at least three that have been in development for some time. One was Leave No Trace, which aired last year on Hulu, this one on Netflix, and there is a third but I can't remember who it is affiliated with or when it will air.
  9. I think that was part of the local politics of the site. The project was meant to boost the local economy of the North Jeolla province so local enterprises were given priority. We have the same construct here, it's just generally some entity steps in when there are looming deadlines and cost overruns on a high profile project. Also, this site wasn't just being developed for WSJ, there are/were plans for other future large scale events to be held there on an ongoing basis, so their timeline in some regards extended beyond WSJ. As far as the US and the WSJ involvement, though, anyone reading an
  10. There are some apps that track this. I just started looking into it myself so I can't recommend one yet but I am looking for one that gives an audible signal, not just something I have to keep looking at on my phone. Merlin is enough of a distraction.
  11. As a kid, I never heard coach jokes or priest jokes, but I sure heard scoutmaster jokes. Abuse in scouting was pretty widely known and pretty much batted aside as just another humorous woodland hazard like wet socks or a nosy bear. If it took lawsuits to change that mentality, I think that says more about scout leadership than lawyers, frankly.
  12. I would say the traditional charter organization model, except for a few outliers, is heading towards extinction. It just doesn't work from either an operations or a liability standpoint in today's environment.
  13. The context for his letter and the quote were, as I cited, the hundreds of lawsuits that had been settled, gone to court, or were still pending at that time and were what pushed BSA into bankruptcy. BSA's liability for the child sexual abuse cases had been definitively established by 2019, which was why the organization had to file for bankruptcy. However more you may want to try and minimize the BSA's admission in a letter that was already expertly crafted by lawyers and PR advisors to minimize and deflect that responsibility, the fact remains that BSA does have an established history o
  14. In a May 28, 2019 letter to Congress Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh admitted that BSA did allow credibly accused child abusers to return to scouting. That is covering up for them, and it was exposed multiple times in many of the lawsuits that were resolved or pending prior to the bankruptcy. It was reported upon in multiple places as a follow up to his earlier December 2018 letter to Congress in which he had denied such events ever took place.
  15. The information is conflicting but at this point it doesn't seem like that would be helpful. The Korean hosts wanted WOSM to end the event before the closing ceremony so the best courtesy towards them might be to stay away. A lot will depend on how the weather forecast unfolds.
  16. They are 120 miles away at Camp Humphries. It's not possible to hike in if that's what you mean.
  17. Document what you have experienced and present it to not just the CO but also the Council and confirm that it has been received. Kids who are being bullied or hazed by adults or other scouts are kids at risk from more than just psychological harm. A side effect of bullying/hazing is that it can lead to poor decision making and bad or ill informed judgements in safety situations. Leave, but do your best to protect the scouts you leave behind as you are thinking to do.
  18. Wisconsin and the Illinois area are represented only because they are the most recent regions. This has been working its way through several regions over the past couple years. I think NY state and Massachusetts were a year or so ago if memory does not fail.
  19. It has nothing to do with predator recognition, more a comment on how it is a reminder of abuse cases where adult men lured scouts through various activities involving undressed states. I saw that statue in WDC as a kid and even then audible jokes were made by people viewing it.
  20. I don't think there is any issue with nudity in public art because it's everywhere. I think the issue with nudity or near nudity in the DC BSA memorial statue is due to discomfort because of the history of child sexual abuse in scouting. Seeing a large near naked man looming behind a boy scout in light of today's situation is uncomfortable for many.
  21. That's the national scout memorial in Washington, DC, lol. If I remember correctly, it was installed in the early '60s -- which in scout years, would be like the 1930s -- so I guess that's why it is evocative of the imagery of that nationalistic era. The male and female are supposed to represent the support of American man and woman hood in scouting. Poor choice of depiction in my opinion as well but at least there are a lot of other statues of male boy scouts to view if you don't like that one.
  22. There have to be more than a half dozen bronze statues around Bechtel, most depicting men or boys doing something scout like, such as hunting, biking, falconry or at least hanging out with the eagles, fishing, etc. The only statue, and the first statue, they could think of to depict women scouters was a mythical one? What is the symbolism of this? All the male statues are showing people already enjoying the scout ideal; is this female statue inferring that scouting is something women are aspiring to when they are already doing it? It would have been better to show a show a female scouter hikin
  23. School based means school based, so they are not outside entities. Frankly, I understand it. A lot of schools are being overwhelmed by a fire hose of requests for access to students and facilities.
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