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    Annual Planning Conference question

    @Eagledad has some good advice: https://www.scouter.com/topic/31448-new-unit-what-to-consider-first/?tab=comments#comment-502458
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    merit badge sash q2

    It would be politically inexpedient to introduce one within the next few years. People would complain that the girls are changing the program. Of course, to be able to sew on a button, restitich a seam that has come loose, and hem a pair of pants is really really useful for almost anyone. To take a tuck in a waistband, to replace an elastic or zipper, or to make a costume for a special event -- also handy. I was disappointed that GSUSA doesn't include sewing in its badges the way it used it.
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    Fundraiser shutdown

    It's not just an issue with Trails End popcorn. Same issue with Girl Scout Cookies. And the candybars that the sports teams sell. Etc. Etc. Etc. It seems like these sorts of fundraisers are teaching the kids to beg. One of the troops in our town has a really great fundraiser. Collecting and disposing of Christmas Trees after Christmas. It seems that no-one else provides this service and it is valued by its customers -- at least every year on the neighborhood email list some neighbor starts asking about who they can contact to haul away their tree. Do y'all have more ideas of great fundraisers that provide useful services that people want?
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    Unapologetically Exploiting GSUSA's Achilles' Heels

    How many joined your Scouts BSA troop? Or at least have visited a meeting since school started this fall?
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    Be a Scout site not working

    For Scouts BSA only the Key 3 can update the Troop's info. I assume that for a Pack it is similarly the Key 3 (COR, CC, CM) If you are one of the Key 3, then log into my.scouting.org. Go to Menu --> Legacy Web Tools --> Beascout. This should let you edit the pin. The changes will not show up immediately, but will appear by the next day. If I remember right, one of the things you need to set is the option that makes the pin visible.
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    Be a Scout site not working

    How much do you lock down your browser? With lots of add blocking and javascript disabled I see those same colored rectangles on beascout. (Not sure exactly which one is blocking the relevant info.) Try a different, less locked down, browser. Or try the Tor browser.
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    Must a boy be on the Charter to attend Dad and Lad?

    Great. And is there a place on a BSA website where I could find this? And yes we are encouraging all new scout families to have a parent sign up for some position in the troop (committee member or . . . )
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    Must a boy be on the Charter to attend Dad and Lad?

    Resurrecting an old thread to ask a related question . . . Our troop would like to invite a couple of prospective scouts on an outing. (They've attended one troop meeting this week, but not yet made up their minds whether to join.) Outing would be an easy bike ride -- a few miles on a suburban bike trail (rail trail) to the ice cream shop and back. It seems like a good way for a prospective scout, accompanied by a parent, to get acquainted with the scouts in the troop. (And most kids in our town own bikes and know how to ride them.) But . . . our committee chair is not sure that inviting a prospective scout on an outing (even accompanied by a parent) is permissible. Can you point me to something in writing by BSA talking about this situation? I see this for venturing ( https://www.scouting.org/programs/venturing/crew-resources/recruiting/ ) which clearly talks about inviting prospective Venturers on "Tier I" outings. But what about Scouts BSA?
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    New Things...

    Our girls troop went to summer camp, and absolutely loved it, and it did not surprise me one bit. Remember, BSA scouts, especially the girls, are self-selecting. Some are, some aren't. BSA is a good organization for the kids that are. Some kids may find a better fit in a different youth-serving organization.
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    Help With Internet Advancement

    I like the sign-offs in their handbooks -- not only can they see what they have completed, it also puts the record keeping responsibility on the scout. I'd also like to keep personal electronic devices from intruding too much on outings. Sign offs in scout handbooks don't require getting out someones cell phone. I have seen that not everyone has the same opinion I have.
  11. I was looking over the JTE scorecard as my troop was thinking about plans for the coming year. It puzzles me as to how to apply "retention" to a brand-new all-girl troop with a charter year ending in December. The percentage retention is to be calculated as Percentage is thus (0-0)/0 If dividing by zero is bad, then dividing zero by zero is even worse! Does this mean that this is one less category available in which new troops can earn points? We already have enough points for bronze, but might not have enough categories (objectives).
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    JTE scorecard - division by zero error

    Sounds good. Common sense would say to compare the scouts on the end-of-2019 recharter with the scouts on the 1 February 2019 initial charter, and we can go with that, even though that is not how the Journey to Excellence scorecard actually says to calculate it. (If I read it correctly, JTE wants a comparison of Dec 31, 2018 with Dec 31, 2017, which seems odd.)
  13. Sounds a lot like a girl scout type of project, with its focus on civic action. https://www.girlscouts.org/en/about-girl-scouts/girl-scouts-and-civic-engagement.html https://www.girlscouts.org/girlagenda
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    merit badge sash q1

    Do you mean Men's Large? (as opposed to Youth Large.)
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    New Committee Chair for a New Troop

    Ok, we have wandered way off topic . . . But from my adult and female point of view, it seems like giving one's patrol a joke name might go along with treating the patrol idea as a joke. Of course, I've never been an 11-year-old boy, nor are there any such in my troop. For the girls at least I'd like to see a certain amount of pride in their patrols -- and along with that goes choosing a good name.
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    New Committee Chair for a New Troop

    Keep in mind that enthusiasm, and a willingness to learn, combined with a willingness to work hard and put in ample time, can go a long way. These are no substitute for experience, but for any CC, there was a first time when they took the job without prior experience. Who would do the CC job if you don't? If there is not another obvious candidate, that can increase the other scouter's and troop families' willingness to put up with your learning on the job. Mind you, I am not a CC. I did jump into a role with my daughter's new troop for which I have the training but not the experience. Am learning as I go. The troop is far from a perfect troop, but it is *much* better than no troop (which is what the girls had before 1 February) and is improving as the scouts and the adults learn their roles.
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    New Committee Chair for a New Troop

    Great news that your daughter has a troop. Last thing I remember you saying on the subject was "Don't ask". Now for the pressing question: Did she convince her patrol mates to be the Artemis Patrol and use that great patrol patch she designed? or did they talk her into something else? ( It seems to me that the incoming girls have a great opportunity to raise the standard on patrol names and patches. ) Keep in mind that as CC, being one of the key three, you will be in a position to positively influence the new troop. Having a brother troop, you will have experienced scouters nearby when you need to ask questions.
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    Blue Cards

    I think that the original question was "How long should a Troop hold on to the troop's third of the blue card, after the scout has completed the merit badge?" Until the scout ages out of scouting?
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    New unit - what to consider first

    @sst3rd you meant "scout troop for girls" not "girls scout troop" (since GSUSA is suing BSA over this issue) Having just gotten a new troop started I agree about the getting out camping first. And actually (this advice was from @Eagledad) the early troop meeting activities can be preparing or developing skills for those first outings. Eventually they will realize they need a patrol name in order to make Scout rank -- that can wait until they realize it. Once you have five enthusiastic girls eager to get started, then start the girls troop -- don't make them wait any longer. Gradually the other things will begin to get sorted out, or if not you will improvise.
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    NYLT Recruitment

    In your experience, does this work best to ask each scout individually, or to get them all together (the scouts from the troop who went through NYLT together) so that they can hear each others' answers? Negatively, all together, and the quieter ones might just follow the lead of the more dominant. Positively, all together and they may build on each others' ideas.
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    NYLT Recruitment

    Thanks. That was very helpful. The troop has been having a 1x/month PLC meeting. Seems not enough. We may need to add the 15-minute mini-meeting ("huddle"?) prior to each troop meeting. And also the post-troop-meeting brief PLC meeting. Opinions? Am signed up for one in about half a years' time. But there will be a few months until then.
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    Bragging time on the oldest.

    I think that the big contrast between BSA and GSUSA is the program materials, not the volunteers. In fact, as I have been getting involved with BSA, I am seeing people I met in GSUSA (who were volunteering with their daughters' troops) also volunteering with BSA (with their sons packs/troops).
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    Bragging time on the oldest.

    Really depends on the particular GS leaders. I've seen GS leaders happy to send scouts, in pairs, all over the camp from Juniors (grades 4-5) onwards. BSA has much more detailed regulations -- and I have certainly seen people in BSA unsure whether they can allow the (middle school) scouts to head out in pairs away from adult eyes, given the two-deep leadership rule.
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    Bragging time on the oldest.

    P.S. Summer camp is, in my opinion, currently the best part of the GSUSA program. (It has, to a great extent, resisted the modernization trends in GSUSA.) And it is great for the scouts when the supervising "adults" are the ages of their older siblings and older cousins, rather than the age of their parents. On the other hand, BSA summer camp struck me has having a LOT more resources (there was clearly a lot of money behind the camp, somewhere). There were many many fun activities for the scouts, requiring lots of expensize equipment. My daughter likes both kinds of scout camp, and wants to continue to attend both.
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    Bragging time on the oldest.

    Something sounds wrong here. Girl Scout leaders do not go to summer camp with their scouts. My daughter's reaction to summer BSA camp was that it was great -- but there was one thing that GS camp did better: At BSA camps you have to take your mother with you if she is scoutmaster, but at GS camps you have to leave your mother behind if she is the girl scout troop leader. Girl Scouts sign up for camp as individuals, they do not go with their troops. They are grouped into units with other girls, from other town and troops, who they have probably never met before. GS camps are mostly staffed by college students. These college students are the ones supervising the scouts in their units at night. There may be a few "real adults" (parent-aged adults) around, such as the camp director and the camp nurse, but the scouts (hopefully) have very little interaction with them. At BSA camp, in my opinion, it felt like there was a huge number of adults around compared to the number of scouts. The amount of adult hovering seemed much greater than I remember from GS camps in my youth, or from what my daughter tells me about GS camps in recent years.
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