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GTA 2021 is on scouting.org. They no longer have a section with what has changed so in my quick look: Para 4.0.0.1 removed the reference to the old Requirements books. Says the first place to check for the current requirements list is the web, not the Handbook or Merit badge Pamphlet. (No need for MBPs or Handbooks any longer) 6.0.0.4 Registration should be done online. BSA ID numbers are not unique to councils anymore. (Good) 7.0.3.0 The Process of Counseling Acknowledgment that while in person activities are preferred they are not required; (so do all t

So when do we see Exhibit C...LC contributions?

I'm assuming nothing happened on this at the NAM???

Yep that extra $25 worked out well since now there are less Cub Scouts than Scouts BSA in the program.

And the national fee is scheduled to go up and councils can add a matching fee and and and.... My friend did a look at the entire report (he has) and points out that about 25% of councils have 1000 or less youth. Need a lot of exponential doubling for these councils.

Yes. 2021 March KPI report that the summary page numbers were shared with me. March 2020 to March 2021 comparison. I'm guessing the 2021 numbers are post rechartering. Cubs Scouts BSA V/SS Explorers Total 2021 348738 369716 13832 16787 749073 2020 641939 417360 25399 58311 1143009

Cynic....mine are end of March 2021.

Ventures/Sea Scouts are fading away on their own regardless of what National does or doesn't do. V/SS have less than 14K and E less than 17K youth. More disturbing is that the numbers show that there are more Scouts BSA than Cubs. Mergers might work some but as long as Exec Bds have to approve them, no one is likely to want to merge with a failing (cash poor) council. An ever growing number of councils have less than 1000 youth. Some parents are hesitant to join as they hear about the bankruptcy and may be waiting it out to see what happens.

@Eagle1993 do you think the almost 1 million (or a good chunk) previously registered will return or will this be new scouts who are willing to pay extra to join? any stats on numbers of youth that leave the program that return within the next year?

Someone told me they had seen a Feb 2021 report like the one cynical shared and the total BSA was about 950K

There is not much if any of a COVID reduction. March numbers reflect recharters which in this case LDS would account for the majority of the reduction. End of March 2020 total was 1143000, Dec 1199425 which is likely some of the fall recruiting.

I would love to see the breakdown of these girls: Ages: 18+, 16-17, 14-15, below 14 . The 18+ are no longer members of Scouts BSA. Hopefully the next older ones will stay until 18 and help out or will they follow a lot of the boys and vanish after their BOR/COH. How many were given extensions? We know there were a number who were doing the requirements from their college dorms. Wonder how many boys joined that later and asked for extensions? What size troops were they in? We know there were approximately 33000 girls in Scouts BSA at the end of 2020. What PO

Why in God's green earth would a unit have a council hold their money?

This topic will be added a requirement for the DEI MB and rank.

Maybe we can close this thread and have cburkhardt and cynical and inquisitive summarize the status of the bankruptcy under a new thread like "bankruptcy 2021 status ". Or something like that.

@CynicalScouter Obviously (or maybe not) my comment was facetious. I've never seen the BSA return anything to the customer...seen many comments where even getting a $5 refund for a cancelled event was a major production I did like your #3 "adjusting expenditures to the new reality of income/revenue". I think a lot of councils are still in a fantasy world.

Wonder how many millions will be saved and returned to the scouts. The Requirements Book ($5) is really a book the scout, leader, parent can sit down and read through to see everything they can earn. Unless this is available as a single file, scouts need to click on each individual badge or award to see the requirements and peak their interest. A number of MBCs and leaders use the book all the time as a reference out in summer camp or just regular meetings instead of flipping through their phones if they even have connection. Might as well just put the handbook and filled in

I think what @RememberSchiff is saying is that units never see these numbers until after the fact. The Activity Fee is mandatory vice FOS being voluntary. Some units are lucky in that their members still have money left after the national fee and unit fees to voluntarily give some more. In today's world not so much. Some parents walked away with the $25 extra fee just to join. A 3-5 year projected budget might be helpful but never seen one. With the huge reductions across the board in the BSA, most would want to see a corresponding reduction at their council...not pretty but

I think most units have their own EIN number and don't or can't use their CO but that doesn't mean they file Federal Income taxes or does it?

So now that recharter season is essentially over, how many of you have a council fee added to each scout/adult and if so, how much.

No worry. The Eagle workbook says you must use form 512-927. This form is 2021a.

@InquisitiveScoutergiven your process I'm surprised anyone would apply to be a MBC and if it takes 16 weeks you will have zero counselors before the 1 May date.

@InquisitiveScouter 10-16 weeks? What council are you in? That's ridiculous.

Remember although the MB is required if a scout wants to earn Eagle, there are supposedly going to be rank DEI requirements as well so it ripple through the entire advancement program.

Paperwork submitted.