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What is the difference between the top numbers and the "sub district " ones?   Not heard the term sub district used.

wonder how many boys dropped since these numbers include girls?

While I'm sure we all wish him to succeed there are a few questions that need to be addressed (bankruptcy and solvency aside):

1. Will he have any real authority to do anything or will it get buried in the current organization morass and Executive Board "rules"?

2.  Will be be able to flip the organization upside down where the professionals work for the customers (scouts)? 

3. Will he be able to get a "one team" organization since now the councils are their own feifdoms and run from any hard issues with national.  e.g.   Not our fault, national raised the rates.

4.  For the functions proposed to be shed from national back to councils, can the councils actually do the work since they all cry poor mouth and no staffing for what they are supposed to do now.  Surely all councils will impose a fee for these "new services"

5.  Will he be able to eliminate poor councils, force mergers, property sales and allow units to pick the council that best suits their needs meaning councils have to earn the unit's business?

6. How will he fix the National culture ?  We all report bad or non existent service and when we do, it is made our fault, or our responsibility to fix or asked to just go away.

7. And the last, hire some "outsiders" into the Scout Exec positions at the council level.

JMHO.

Oops. 9.0.2.7

The Troop Committee decides how they want to handle approvals on Eagle Proposals.   GTA 9.0.1.7

If you know your unit the JTE form should take no more than 10 minutes to fill it out.

Districts want you to fill it out because it is one of the JTE items they get judged on. They don't necessarily do anything with the form except file it.

councils can get Gold if they are Silver points in all categories.  The 2020 form has a caveat about not counting LDS losses.

@carebear3895 It doesn't work the other way either.   A poorly run council or one that violates the charter agreement doesn't get shut down by National and units are trapped to move to other councils by the geographic franchise rule.

I heard that some councils will be changing their names to Leave No Trace council numbers x, y, z etc on December 31st. 😉

@ValleyBoy  Returned to council with letters yes.  Sent to National no.  Application is electronically sent to national 99% of the time.   SEs like to flip through their project binders prior to signing the application.

@mrkstvnsThanks.

Pardon my lack of knowledge but does the GS have a required YPT course like the BSA does?  And are GS leaders mandated reporters?  Thanks.

@shortridge  Amen to that.   My beef with commissioners are they don't stay current with what's actually going on in the program and telling units absolutely false information  which is particularly dangerous to newer units.  The biggest problem of course is that there would be no one working on their Doctorate of Commissioner Science...the dumbest thing the BSA has.

Also they need to hire from the outside for senior positions.  Get from expertise from financial, change management and IT to fix these long standing functional and organizational issues.

The Franchise model the BSA uses which traps units in poorly run councils/districts needs to go.    Why not let units sign on with councils for service with any council that provides them with better than they get locally, in other words get councils to earn your business by treating you as a customer...not the other way around.

Just my big nirvana thoughts.

@ParkMan These are all things that have been said on the forums/blogs.   Instead of quoting those folks Individually I just wanted to show the wide range of reactions to the fee increase. Clearly the WTH one has the most hits.

Ask your DE how you can tap into this magic assistance fund the BSA put in their announcement.

we all know that both national and councils completed a comprehensive risk analysis on the effects of this decision.

Are adults who are just MB counselors still no charge?

@mds3d   Letting us know your EP was 2002 would have been good to know.  The Current procedures were started in 2011.

Back on topic...I saw a facebook post from a SE which points out the glaring disconnects between the National and Council organizations.  He says he has to wait by the phone on the 23rd just like everyone else.   All SE's have a weekly conference call with National every sunday.  For the over 250 SEs which are the direct contacts of the 2M BSA customers to have zero idea what is going to happen to their operations is ridiculous if true.  If they haven't done their own risk analysis on the impacts to their operations shame on them.  They have to know each dollar increase, especially if off the rails, which be one less dollar for them and likely a loss of membership and units.   They also pay a $1000 Charter fee  to the BSA, unless you turn your paperwork in on time (silly) will that also be increased?

@mds3dRemember you signed the Eagle Workbook saying you had read the entire workbook which includes following the above paragraph 9.0.2.14 

@Eagle94-A1  The photo idea is brilliant!

@ParkMan that clarifies it for me.  Now I understand why DEs standard answer is "that's not me".

@ParkMan and @carebear3895    If DEs have no influence at the council level why do we need them?

@Eagle94-A1   As long as your son has completed his Eagle requirements and submitted his application, he does not need to be registered at the time of his EBOR. GTA 9.0.1.1

Unscientific poll....at what level of increase in the national fee do you believe members will decide to or need to quit?

I'm sure they have done the analysis on how much each dollar of increase will reduce the number of those who will join or recharter. 🤔

Stick to the requirements...no more no less.  Has he actually read the MB pamphlet?  The program is for the scout to improve in each of the original exercise tests...if he doesn't due to a poor exercise program...No MB.