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@Jameson76 said

Bottom line, 815,000 youth in 230 (or so) councils means 3,500 youth per council.  If a Council Executive (average) pay is $200K (all in) that means just for the local CE there is a burden of $57 per member.  Data suggest 3,100 or so SA employees, so that may indicate (with benefits) just labor overhead burden of +/- $190,000,000 or $233 PER YOUTH member.  That is before any other overhead costs such as IT, liability insurance.  SA (formerly BSA) needs to reduce the costs, focus on growth, and get rid of what doesn't add value.

My friend sent these.  235 councils.  Only 11 with more than 10K youth.  Less than 4% with more than 3K.  20% with less than 1K.

Yes I'm sure. Just trying to find the scouter who put together a list.    Likely some of the camps don't exist and the number of MBs is different.

Hi...is the scouter from the KC area who put together a list of all camps with what MBs they offer still out there or if someone has his work, please message me.  Thanks

There are careers that may require one-on-one contact with youth, however aside from those roles, 

This is the line that I'm not sure what they meant by adding it.   Employer/Employee?  Doctor/patient?

How do units interpret this?

Registered leaders must follow these guidelines with all Scouting youth outside of Scouting activities. There are careers that may require one-on-one contact with youth, however aside from those roles, volunteers must abide by the youth protection policies of Scouting America even outside of Scouting activities.

Scout leader hires a scout in his business as a trainee to install air conditioners.    Scout leader has to travel to job sites in his two seat work truck and takes the youth with him. 

Opinion ?

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Friend sent this to me

End of April 2025   782276

On 4/23/2025 at 8:45 PM, jcousino said:

the most interesting part is the council picks the number and who is in leadership

not sure what causing long term injury or death to a cub is worth in todays dollar but 7.5 million looks big but to me is really small when faced with a wrongful injury suit.  

The Council always has the responsibility for Adult Leadership.  They do final approval after the background checks and all other required clearances are submitted.  Each unit must have the key 3 and a number of committee members or the council won't/can't process the charter.  They don't pick the actual names, that's the COR or IH purview.

My guess is other organizations like little league each team registers together and there are not multiple end dates for the kids.

Yes the scout interface is crappy which is more reason to do multiple testing before launching this on the masses so you get what you pay for which is "Nightmare in each council"  Film at 11.

Dropping that many in Tron's council is likely to happen in others since IMHO letting parents anywhere near re-registering their scout by themselves instead of doing it all by unit and having members in the same unit re-registering at completely different times is fraught with the disaster they have created.  Parents doing answer emails so one from BSA HQ is not going to get any more rapid response that one from the school system.

I'm going to assume that once again a business has implemented a new procedure without thinking it completely through and doing multiple tests.  There are 40K units that need to register and some mess it up so why let hundreds of thousand potentially individuals register.   Good grief!

Autopen needed a new ink cartridge. 😜

My guess that if National funded councils 100% there would be a lot of DOGEing happening to reduce the number of councils.  😉

236 End of January

And of course there is :

With your parent or guardian’s permission, demonstrate how to iron two different articles of clothing.

Demonstrate your knowledge by cleaning your bedroom, bathroom, or kitchen.

and the obligatory :

Explain how equity is different from equality.

Life Skills...why do we need parents?

Why not add some of these to Family Life and combine FL and Pers Management into one MB.

@Eagle1993Probably correct

My friend said that over 10% of councils have less than 1000 youth and there are only 5% with more than 10K youth.

End of January....966974

So the rebranding caused the 16000 gain? 

I asked my friend about other numbers.    Also mentioned how badly the recharter process has been.

Jan 2024   893117  (down 100K from the end of 2023) 

April 2024  813497

My understanding is this is the snapshot of the data at the end of each month.   If a scout leaves the program but has a paid registration though 12/31/24 they are still counted.  Recharter is supposed to flush out all of those registrations which can take into March by the time all the charters are processed.

mrjohns2...what are you confused about?

Growth in Girls

Overall loss in Boys

A friend sent me these.   

EOY 2024    1030862    Girls 196657  Boys  834205

EOY 2023     1015027     Girls 176209  Boys  838818

Diff                   15835                 20448               -4613

Or...a lot more work, enter his 8 activities in your Activities file and show one one attendee.

Prospective Eagle Scouts had been asked to demonstrate a “record of satisfactory service” since 1927. And in 1952, they were instructed to “do your best to help in your home, school, church or synagogue, and community” — an ambiguous instruction, to be sure.

But on Oct. 1, 1965, the Eagle rank was forever changed when a requirement was added to plan, develop and carry out a service project helpful to the church, synagogue, school or community. (In 1972, the requirement to “give leadership to others” was added.)

The other piece of this was the addition of the requirement to serve in a Troop Warrant Officer position.  Since adults were not members of the troop they could not do this requirement effectively ending adults earning the Eagle Rank.  Of course there are cases for Scouts with Disabilities and lost records which are covered in the Guide to Advancement.

Here's what I found:

50 nights was the requirement in the Jan 1951 HB

20 nights was the requirement in the June 1953 HB