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Pale Horse

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  1. Ah the old belief that only those who believe in a god can have values. Pray tell, which values are exclusive to theists? And among theists is there universal agreement about these values? That was rhetorical; the answers are None and No.
  2. Depends, some fictional members actually paid registration.
  3. Refer to my post from 1/23/19 @ 6:04a.m. in which I supplied the relevant information from GTSS. I realize your opinion is not the "official word of BSA" which is why I supplied the information to correct your incorrect opinion.
  4. Yeah, I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. If you think that quote is requiring all parents to attend camping activities, you should keep reading: both the next couple paragraphs of GTSS and the rest of this thread which clear up any confusion.
  5. Essentially a grant isn't a donation. It's a payment for an act or service to be completed, just in a less direct manner than hiring someone to specifically perform that service. The unit is just acting in a pass-through capacity in receiving the funds and then distributing them in performance of the Grantor's desired benefit.
  6. Right, "expected to" does not mean "required to". That's in no way saying that they must attend. If you read it like that, none of the Bears could attend a campout if the Bear Den leader can't make it, even if you had every other den and pack leader. If you continue reading you will see: "In most cases" also means that at times a youth will not be under the supervision of a parent or guardian. This is expressly stating that there will be camping trips in which a parent of Scout are not in attendance.
  7. NO. BSA rules do not require a parent or guardian unless the Scout is a Tiger or Lion. Refer to Guide to Safe Scouting which @T2Eagle quoted above. Councils are able to set their own requirements at Council Events, but that is not a BSA rule and cannot be enforced at non-council events.
  8. I don't think your CO would get much say in the matter. The Scout was removed from their care/custody by the parent and placed under the care of another willing individual/unit. I don't see how your CO could stop that if they wanted to.
  9. Unless the rules have changed since 17 years ago (and I can't believe they would have changed to be less restrictive), unless your son was a Tiger, there is no requirement that a parent must stay with a Scout on an overnight trip.
  10. Yes, I agree on the need to err on the side of caution. But I'd also question the appropriateness of refusing to work with a Scout based on that Scout's gender, race, or religion. That said, it's still a free country and we have the ability to associate freely with whom we wish.
  11. Yes it does. I'm wondering if this is another council taking this terrible approach. Sure hope it's not gaining ground.
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    I can just imagine the outrage (rightfully so) if someone were to come on here and say " What our pack really needs is some good Den Moms to make us snacks and clean up after us. Sure, us men could do our own cooking and cleaning, but we really don't want to." We're teaching life skills and part of that is self-reliance. Relying or expecting someone else to do it just because they're a certain gender is counter-productive.
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    Jsychk most certainly did associate strong leadership as the realm of males. The one strong leader female example was grudging given praise as "getting by". To quote: "Last year, the Webelos II had 1 strong dad who took the responsibility of leading the boys and providing a rich program... Moms were there to support by decorating the B&G venue, helping with the food, etc,. I think this is what a Pack should look like." This is explicitly stating that men make better leaders and women are ok to "help setup".
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    Please don't associate being a strong leader with being male or female. It's incredibly sexist. As of the update last fall, parents retain full control over their Scout's accounts and have the ability to edit advancement. It cannot be removed by an admin. It's still up to the Den Leader/Advancement Chair to approve the awards. If you have concerns about them being completed, don't approve them.
  15. Here's the wording from the printed application (2018 Printing). If someone can point to the change that's causing the uproar, I'd appreciate it. Is it because some of the people who have been registered since the 70's and haven't had a background check since then now do? That doesn't seem like a bad thing.
  16. To be fair, I don't think the gender divides of the 50's and 60's was isolated to any one religion in particular.
  17. Thanks for the link, still struggling to understand what in there leads to the belief that they can't Scout together.
  18. I know next to nothing about the Mormon religion. Can you expand on these fundamental differences between the sexes that demand they not be co-mingled? Do Mormon children go to single-sex schools?
  19. The change to include reference to the mortgage is nowhere near significant enough for inclusion in the opening paragraph. It will be at the minimum moved to a blurb at the end, but more likely deleted. The Wiki admins don't mess around.
  20. Then they probably should have consulted a real-estate attorney to explain it to them instead of publishing a story they don't understand. This transaction appears to be nothing more than updating and increasing the Line of Credit that BSA has been able to draw upon (with Philmont being the collateral) since 2010.
  21. The solution to that is, don't do 4 fundraisers. Do one and do it right. Plan big, hit your goal and be done with it.
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