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Pale Horse. You just don't get it. For your information this scout was attempting to discuss in detail HIS "dudes he smashed" as you so colorfully have put it. I am not sure where you participate in scouting at but I have never heard or witnessed any scouts speaking or heard any other scouts saying they have heard or discussed their activity. So no you are wrong when you say it isn't a gay or straight issue. In this case, it was a gay issue. This is my son we are talking about and when my son says he is not comfortable around this type of behavior, I will remove my son from that situati

In my honest opinion, we as a society have set our children up for failure. We have allowed the "everyone gets a trophy" and there are no "winner and losers" and the all too familiar "don't keep score so no ones feelings get hurt". We did not fight back and tell them yes there are winners and losers and not everyone gets a trophy and yes at the end of the day score is being kept. We are not preparing our youth for the real world. Case in point, the 2016 Presidential Election. All the lefties were told Hillary was going to win and life was going to be great. Election night comes around a

What do you do about someone that is Agnostic? We had an Assistant Cubmaster that was openly vocal about being Agnostic.

It wasn't necessarily your exact comment but a collection of comments discussing the medical and psychological aspect of the transgender scouts that it was neither. Me personally, I think this is a bad idea. There too many things that can go wrong. As most of us are aware, the BSA is full of lawyers that will find a way not to represent us Volunteers. If anyone doesn't think there are going to be people to "test" this new policy specifically to file a lawsuit, they are sadly mistaken. Look how fast they were to file a law suit over being asked to leave because of the old policy. I was a

Scouting is down over 4000 scouts in my District alone.

Are we now calling transgender a "Medical Issues"? I read in earlier posts it is not a medical or psychological issue. This is not an "allergy" or "physical disability". This is a scout with the biological body of a female claiming on a membership form to be a male. Again, you will never know and according to our District and Council per National, you are not allowed to ask. I asked the same question, what do you do when you find out by looking over the medical form" According to the new policy, that scout is to be treated based solely on what they put on that BSA application. I agree,

Good luck with that. Again, you have completely missed the point. Go back and read the new policy. You keep talking about a "Birth Certificate". In all my years of scouting, I have never seen or had a birth certificate given to me. If mom and dad put on that application that Jane is Johnny and never say a word to you, how will you ever know until something happens. Oh and by the way, you are not allowed to ask.

I think you have missed the point here. The new BSA policy says their identity is based on what they say on their application NOT Birth Certificate. You will never see the Birth Certificate. When little Johnny walks through the door he/she is Johnny not Jane. When you are assigning tents, you are not suppose to know Johnny is Jane. If you do make tenting decisions based on Johnny being Jane, you will face a lawsuit tor treating Johnny/Jane different. This is the problem many of us are having with this as we are not suppose to know that Johnny is really Jane.

BSA Policy requires ALL Scouters and people attending Scouting events to have a BSA Medical form on file. As a Den Leader and Cubmaster I required our scouts and parents to have a Medical form on file. I would also go over each form to find out if we had anyone with an allergy or medical condition. What happens when us Leaders find out by way of the form that the registered "Boy" is actually a biological female. At that point, how would I be able to put that scout in a tent with male scout? This poses major problems. What bathroom and shower arrangements are there?

As a longtime leader, I am very disappointing in this decision. BSA already has coed programs. These programs have age restrictions though. Why not ease the age restrictions on those programs and let these individuals still get an outdoor experience without changing the Boy and Cub Scout programs. This really has nothing to do with transgender, it is a small group of people that want t cause trouble and force a group to make a change just to make a change. I would like to see the numbers of how membership has gone down due to the last two membership policy changes. I know in my district a

After nine and a half years, my wife and I decided to transfer to another Pack. I had served as the Committee Chairman, Cubmaster and Den Leader. I resigned at the end of last year as the Cubmaster to concentrate on getting the Webelos II Den ready for Boy Scouts. There were also some problems with the new Charter Organization and some new committee members. Anyway, the new year started with lots of drama. The new wolf den of 12 boys decided that they didn't like the new leadership and transferred to a new pack. I asked the Committee if they got payment from those families for their neck

OK, I'm confused. I thought this was a Cub Scout Pack? Why is a Scoutmaster running it. I thought we were talking about a Tiger Den? I do realize that in a Tiger Den that all the parents are suppose to participate in planning and running a meeting but in our Pack, until each parent completed the Youth Protection, they did not participate as any type of leader.

I would recommend meeting weekly and keep the meetings shorter as the younger scouts are harder to keep focused. I would also recommend doing some weekend events to make it fun to have the boys do some outings. Most local fire and police departments are more than willing to conduct tours of the facility. Several grocery stores will do the same. Having more meetings gives the boys something to look forward to and also makes it possible for families to spend time together.

amg4814 First off, welcome to this forum. From someone that has been through something similar to this, my recommendation is to get out now. There are too many other Packs out there. I was with the same Pack for nine years serving as a Den Leader, Committee Chairman and Cubmaster. I wanted to step down as the Cubmaster to devote my time to the 12 boys I had been working with since they were Tigers and get them ready for Boy Scouts. I had had my problems with other leaders not wanting to do the minimum required for the boys and knew it was time for a change. Once I made the change to

Very good points. That's why I love coming here. Taking eight of the 12 to a Boy Scout Campout this weekend. Guess what, they are going over the Camper Adventure. How great is that. Not to toot my own horn but these boys have been with me since their Tiger and Wolf years and none have left. I must be doing something right. I do expect a great deal from them as I go to the award ceremonies a the school and all but one are in the gifted program and on the honor roll. Sometimes they get lazy and do the minimum. I do try to catch them time to time and they get me instead. Too bad we can

I completely agree and thank you for reinforcing my belief in it is better to learn than earn. So many leaders want to walk away with bling and I want to walk away knowing these boys might remember something and use it in life. Unfortunately it appears I have angered the ACM and his Treasurer wife(their son is I'm my Den) by saying the boys did not earn the Adventure. Their son by the way was running around at our first patrol meeting trying to look the information up in his handbook and in tears because he didn't know it. I reassured him that it isn't a failure on his part but a measuring

To my knowledge, no scout has been told they are getting the award. Our Pack just started using a new software system (Troop Track) and I don't think the parents and most leaders for that matter know how to use it's done see what the scouts have earned. I very much have enjoyed my time in Scouting especially seeing these boys grow and learn. Good point about Boy Scouting and the signed handbooks. That is one thing I have stressed is that we will be running the Den as a Patrol in the Boy Scouts to get them ready. Our ACM is a little headstrong. He is a tech guy and is running the

I would recommend following the Guide to Safe Scouting. I understand it might not be popular but the BSA puts out rules and guidelines for a reason. I myself found out how parents can turn on you in a second. I had a Tiger Leader we had to let go due to constant liability issues. I love camping and taking the scouts out in the wild. I feel it is a responsibility of us leaders. It is also our responsibility as leaders to protect the scouts, families, Pack and Charter Organization from liability. Scouting deals with many hazardous situations like fire, knives, tools, bad weather and so fo

So, I am the Arrow of Light Den Leader now since my resignation as Cubmaster several months ago. I have 12 Scouts. I know, way too many but the families are great and pitch in. 10 people in my Den Serve in Leadership positions in the Pack. Here is my problem. Eight of the Scouts in my Den went to Resident camp. I was not able to attend as I was working the Presidential Conventions and not able to take off. I had many complaints from the parents that attended. It appears the camp was run by immature Boy Scouts mainly concerned about their phones (not sure why they had them there anyway)

Sorry for the late response all. Have been working the BLue and Gold Banquet. Yes the model is 74251. I have bothe the OD which matches the BSA Cargo type pant and the Tundra which is almost a perfect match to the switchback. 511 does have several types to choose from if you don't like cotton, they have some rip stop as well. I have a pair and they are a little lighter weight but work great. Do a google search for them because some places have them cheaper or if you know police or government workers, the 511 company will give discounts.

I agree with qwazse. Get in contact with your Cubmaster or Asst. Cubmaster if you have one. They should be talking to each Den Leader each month at Committee Meetings anyway about how they are doing and if they need any help. I try to do Den visits with each Den three times a year. These help to get a feel for how the Den is run and gives the Cubmaster a chance to talk to parents. Maybe get them spun up to help more. Welcome to Scouting and Thank you for stepping up to be a Leader in Scouts. This is a great area for ideas and help from seasoned scouters.

After almost 10 years in Cub Scouts, I recently turned in my resignation as the Cubmaster of our Pack. I could no longer deal with the adult leader drama and people in it for the "Bling". I thought I had lost the spark of teaching the boys something. Along with our COR I scheduled a "test" service project at a local homeless shelter. We had our Webelos and families prepare a meal for 30 "working poor". We would make the meal and serve them at their shelter as well as prepare bag lunches for them for the next day. Tonight was the night we did it. I was very nervous as several of the boys

Our Pack is very lucky in the fact that the boys participated in the fall fundraiser and we are able to have many outings to include a fall and Spring Family Campout. The only problem with this is that the Tiger Den were told not to show up to the Fall Campout until noon because he Den Leader had to go with her son to have baseball pictures. They really didn't get anything accomplished. I am finding out now that there might be some "Pencil Whipping" going on. They just applied for the Healthy Unit Award and when asked by the Advancement Chair if they had completed the checklist (3 den meet

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