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  1. Thus why we cancelled out trip. We were supposed to be week 4 which its looking like their 1st week open. No thanks, I don't want to be the Guinea pig.
  2. This really could be the kiss of death for a lot of people. Scouting is supposed to be that low cost year round family activity. Our camp card sales really took a hit this year due to the virus and our council came out with some virtual Entertainment book thing. Its $20 not too sure how many people will pony up that money. 1/4 of the sales go to the scout as opposed to 1/2 that we get on camp cards. I was unable to fulfill my 2019 FOS commitment due to my husband having open heart surgery. Loss of income and medical bills took away that money. I didn't like that I failed to honor my commitment but I have to take care of my family first. BSA is really going to have to try and tighten the belt hard this year to avoid an increase. Sell a high adventure camp or something. Fat is already being trimmed at the council level. Our council just announced going from 11 districts to about 4. Not 100% if all those former D.E.'s will become support staff somehow yet or what(I was unable to attend the virtual announcement). They also need to figure out a better fall sale product. Popcorn is dead. At least in my area. Too expensive and not that good quality product.
  3. If they do an increase again this year. I will be done with the BSA once my son earns Eagle. I love the program but I am not going to be raked over the coals to pay for previous issues many of which happened before I was even born or allowed to join the BSA.
  4. If anything and council camps don't happen, I think the camps should try to schedule scouts to come in small groups and do work days. Like they do on OA service days. Lots of scouts hurting for service and conservation projects right now. Money is probably the one hold up from massive undertakings happening.
  5. Not familiar of what the YMCA is doing but I think there could be some hiccups with this. Are you saying open a council property to non scout families? Then you have the argument of who exactly is deemed essential. I work for a trucking company and am having to work from home to ensure freight keeps moving. Everyone who has a job is technically essential as their family probably depends on that job income. If its a BSA camp are we still going to follow YPT rules? Will adults be required to attend with camper? That defeats the purpose of it being a day care. Parents already think BSA stands for Babysitters of America(this is a myth we dispel at the 1st meeting).
  6. Yes I spoke to the camping coordinator and filled out the form they had sent out in an email. Stinks we had to cancel. Was pretty excited about a new camp but it is what it is.
  7. Our troop has made the decision to cancel for week 4 at Bert Adams. We have a couple high risk scouts and couple adult's with travel bans. Really hope they give us a full refund.
  8. Atlanta area council sent out a survey earlier. Its where we are supposed to go. Not a good sign.
  9. In troops with a varied age range and rank range this maybe a challenge. Not all first year scouts have the swimming badge thus they can't do the water sports and Star and Life scouts aren't going to sit around and do those what many consider first year badges like First Aid. So keeping them together may not be the best. Several of our older scouts usually opt for the extreme challenges at camp as they have already been there and got the badge for it on the other classes.
  10. If National makes an official cancelation for this summer, that's 2 of out the last 3 years of nothing at Philmont. That could pretty bad debt accumulation for them. I am really on the fence on whether our troop should go to summer camp in Georgia if its open. We have a couple scouts with health issues already. My son has a heart defect and couple boys with asthma. We are exploring the option of trying to book a week somewhere to camp on our own and try to do some activities. We know it will be a massive undertaking and its hot as all get out here in Florida (one of the main reasons we don't go to our council home camp) so we would need to make sure we have somewhere that will be able to accommodate what we are looking for. I am wondering if councils if there is a delayed camp will maybe try to do some weekend or 3 day activities in small groups to get those scouts a chance to do the practical portion of some badges.
  11. How come they suggest you do the online portion of BALOO prior to doing the practical portion? Outdoor Skills Training Courses These courses are designed to help Scouters with skills related to the BSA’s outdoor program. Basic Adult Leader Outdoor Orientation (BALOO) This one-and-a-half day course is designed as an introduction to the Cub Scout outdoor program for leaders interested in adding a camping component to their Pack activities. BALOO training consists of an online pre-requisite component in addition to an overnight hands on practical. BSA’s Cub Scout level camping policies will be taught along with the discovery of the necessary tools to help units carry our a successful camping experience. Completion of this course is mandatory for a MINIMUM OF ONE adult on a Pack overnighter. This course should not be taught with IOLS. As part of a two-part blended learning format, the on-line modules are the first step to become BALOO trained. The on-line training modules contain introductory and basic information that will be built upon during the practical training that is completed during an in-person, council instructed course. The on-line component must be completed prior to the practical component and the course facilitator should check this before allowing enrollment into this part of the course. The in-person syllabus is facilitated by the council training committee and the syllabus must be followed to include the overnight portion of the training. Otherwise the training code will not be awarded. Been a while since I was the training person and in cub scouts so I have not re upped my BALOO training.
  12. I do believe this is going to be the death knell to a lot of scouts/units. Hardest hit group: AOL kids that were supposed to crossover & potentially those 16 1/2-17 year old Life Scouts that were starting to work on their Eagle Projects. Very good chance those 2 age groups could just fade away. We are going to try and get the applications filled out for those who were supposed to crossover this weekend and work on getting them engaged and start to work on some rank advancements and earning those stay at home badges. Summer camp is currently a big ? in our group right now. Crossover parents haven't paid any money yet and we aren't sure we will even be able to go to summer camp if this keeps up Our council is asking nothing doing till at least May 11. However this could potentially have a bright spot. We could heavily advertise online and on t.v. and see if we can't suck in some kids to start scouting since things like sports are currently suspended. The BSA has that "rainy day' activity potential. But then would they want to continue as Lone Scouts once this lifts? Will they want to go camping with their unit in the future? That's unknown. So many variables. Realistically, if you are looking for things for your child to do, you can just google the what we do an do it for free. Just wont get all the snazzy awards and patches.
  13. All activities here are suspended till at least April 1. The summer camp we are supposed to go to this year was to have week 4 class registration this coming Tuesday 3/24. We got an email a couple days ago saying registration for weeks 1 & 2 have now been pushed to April. Scouters and Parents, With the current situation across our country and the world we have decided to push back merit badge registration three weeks. We hope this will allow you time to work with your Scouts virtually, with their parents, in order to get class schedules from them. Weeks 1-2 will open April 13 at 9AM Eastern Weeks 3-5 will open April 14 at 9AM Eastern Our troop is up in the air on making any more payments till we see how this all pans out.
  14. Wait a second, don't they contradict themselves on the last point? And pretty much every other point in this memo... It says this is from an email from the GSA Orange County. The talking points below come via an email from the Girl Scouts of Orange County, California. Marketplace positioning talking points following BSA’s filing of Chapter 11 bankruptcy: First and foremost, Girl Scouts is and always has been a completely separate and independent nonprofit organization from any other youth-serving or scouting organization and is not now and has never been affiliated with, partnered with, a subsidiary of, or otherwise engaged with any other youth-serving or scouting organization. Girl Scouts of the USA (GSUSA) and Boy Scouts of America (BSA) were founded separately, incorporated separately, and have existed as two completely separate and distinct organizations for more than a century. That has not changed, nor will it ever. Girl Scouts of the USA does not share or overlap membership or finances with Boy Scouts of America. BSA’s decision to admit girls did not signify a merger, partnership, or any other formal or informal joining of our two separate and distinct organizations. The bankruptcy filing by BSA does not have any financial impact on Girl Scouts’ finances, which are strong. In terms of Girl Scouts of the USA’s pending litigation against Boy Scouts of America for trademark infringement, GSUSA will continue to protect our trademark rights and pursue its infringement claims against BSA. Girl Scouts was not part of BSA’s decision-making process to file for bankruptcy, either formally or informally, and so cannot and will not speak to the internal motivations, finances, or decisions of another completely separate organization. Girl Scouts is proud of its more than 100 years of dedicated and expert service to girls—and girls only—in an environment that is girl-led, girl-focused, supportive of girls’ positive development, and, above all, safe. At Girl Scouts, we do not comment on the actions or circumstances surrounding any other organization. As the single-largest and best girl leadership development program in the world, we remain focused on our mission of serving girls and preparing them for a lifetime of leadership. I call this talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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