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27 minutes ago, prof said:

New Assistant Chief Scout Executive and new Division Directors? I am glad they are hiring people to oversee the changes, But I hate to see new levels of administration added, when resources could be spent closer to the boys!

Need a designated fall guy to blame?

My understanding, Ms. Ireland wants admission into Boy Scouts now so she can meet all the same Eagle requirements by her 18th birthday. Time is not on her side.

1 hour ago, Tampa Turtle said:

Please note: it included the following 

National photo shoot for the new Cub Scout handbooks ! For updated information send questions to Family.Program@scouting.org!

It bothers me when real scouts are not used in photos, like the fake Eagle Scout with TWO Camping merit badges on his sash who appeared on the back of merit badge pamphlets. 

Those girls can't be Cub Scouts yet, right?

As I recall, she has been a scout in Canada and a Venturer in US. Her family is heavily involved in Scouting; her brother is an Eagle. As she said earlier ,  "I am 16 and have been an unofficial member of the Boy Scouts for 12 years. I tagged along with my older brother, wearing the same uniforms, earning badges and learning to camp along with the other boys. ... For the past four years, I have been publicly advocating for girls to be admitted as full members of the Boy Scouts. ."

Seems to fit the new narrative coming from National, so a win for National and a win for her.  I imagine National is giving serious thought if they should "select" the first female Eagle or leave it to chance.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/im-a-girl-ive-been-part-of-the-boy-scouts-for-years-its-time-i-become-a-member/2017/08/25/a6d61ea8-89c1-11e7-961d-2f373b3977ee_story.html

Well we knew this was coming...

A Bridgehampton teen who has advocated tirelessly for years for the right for young women to join Boy Scouts saw victory recently — but, sadly, by the time girls are allowed to join Boy Scout troops in 2019, she will have aged out of the program.

To that end, her father Gary Ireland and the rest of Sydney Ireland's family are urging people to write to Boy Scout President Randall Stephenson and Chief Scout Executive Michael Surbaugh and ask them to allow Sydney "to join the organization immediately so that she can have the opportunity to work towards the Eagle Rank. . . Please give her the opportunity to be part of the change and finish what she started," Ireland wrote.

Source link with email addresses:

https://patch.com/new-york/southampton/teen-who-fought-girls-join-boy-scouts-seeks-earn-eagle

So if she and her family are successful, maybe there will be "soft launches" in some Scout troops soon or maybe a full path to Eagle will be implemented in Venturing.

Could be a win-win.

Bobby Fischer wrote a chess for awhile. I liked the Space Conquerors strip. Back then the space race was on.

Why didn't they just go at night? 

All too common.

I joined a troop where only the ASM's had scouts in the troop; the Troop Committee  were all grumpy lifers. Term limits anyone?

Let me know if you want the Topic title changed.

Getting off-topic I split @WisconsinMomma recent post

I hid @Col. Flagg recent post, pending review by moderators.

How others parent their own kids is not part of the discussion.

Well er, umm, well surely I can't be the first on this forum to satirize , exaggerate, misspeak, tell a ripping yarn,....

About rumored new Den Chief training, the thought was what to do with girl dens? Can they have Boy Scouts as Den Chiefs?

Ok then,  back to hammocks. 

Has anyone tried the Sierra Madre hammocks? I saw their sales pitch on Shark Tank recently. I was impressed and so was Branson.

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor of an updated YPT and Den Chief training coming this spring. Anyone else hear about this?

6 minutes ago, WisconsinMomma said:

I think sometimes stories get told over and over.   Sure, babies are made all over the place.  That is life.  Just don't blame the girls and women only because it takes two to tango. 

I did not blame girls or women, in fact I did not state the genders,  dating is inappropriate at a scout activity.  Or did that change?

41 minutes ago, WisconsinMomma said:

That's some parents, but  not all of them.  And if Scout kids are at camp and they go on a date, it's not that bad.  You guys say you don't want adults around, except when you do!  Many parents are very supportive of their kids' activities.  

There is coffee all over my screen.

Scouts going on a date while at a scout activity? Not happening.

Rabbi (Captain) Cass was involved with Boy Scouts.  One day,  scouts presented him with a large sand timer.

“But how can I use it?” he asked with seeming innocence.

“To time your sermons,” came the cheeky reply. 

Interesting story about Hanukah during WW2 in Europe at link above

Bridgeville town council in November voted to rename Locust Alley to Eagle Way in honor of BSA Troop No. 2.  Nearly 70 scouts from have earned  Eagle Scout since the troop started in 1982

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/west/2017/12/08/Street-in-Bridgeville-to-be-renamed-in-honor-of-Boy-Scout-Troop-2-Eagle-Scouts/stories/201712070001

Nice way to get Eagles and the BSA on the map. 

@an_old_DC have you heard of other "soft launch" councils? So far, this is the only one which I have found.

I don't think girls do primary colors.  Camelian or Crimson neckers maybe, but definitely not Red. 

IMO girls, particularly girls who excel in classwork, will have an easier time than boys in completing the current Eagle requirements.

If they should comment "it was easy", then I think we will see a return to harder requirements, maybe even pull-up minimums in Personal Fitness.  

Good-bye 300lb Eagle scouts.

I moved responses regarding using Eagle Scout to recruit Girls to a new topic.

Let's keep this topic about the new launch of admitting girls into Cub Scouts

22 minutes ago, Snow Owl said:

I am curious what councils are going to do with girl applications before the 2018 school year?  I cannot imagine my council turning down money or anything that boosts their numbers.

It will be interesting to hear more about Council plans. Maybe that Council will delay Spring Cub recruitment until Fall.

5 minutes ago, Eagle94-A1 said:

One regarding BSA and Knives, while they do have policies, those policies stress"legally owned" so knife laws do need to be considered. As for school policies, how many Scouts have gotten in trouble for carrying a spork to school? Anyone remember the Eagle Scout with camping gear in the trunk of his car, including a knife and axe, that was suspended?  Graduating senior, West Point bound, and a volunteer firefighter if memory serves, yet got suspended b/c of wood TOOLS ( emphasis) in the runk of his car.

Does anyone recall if National, Council, or his SM contacted the school system or otherwise spoke on that Eagle Scout's behalf?

IMHO, it would be helpful if the back of the Totin' Chip had a what-to-do list and phone contacts for when a scout's knife wanders into a restricted location.

The Alamo Area Council of the Boy Scouts of America will invite girls to join Cub Scouting from January to May 2018.
This “soft launch” will be open to girls currently in kindergarten for Lions, and girls in the first through fourth grades in Tigers, Wolves, Bears, and Webelos I, a BSA spokeswoman said.

Cub scout dens will be single-gender: all boys or all girls.

The official launch will be at the beginning of the 2018/2019 school year. Webelos II girls will also have to wait until January 2019 when the older girl program is launched, the spokeswoman said. The older girls program will enable them to earn the Eagle Scout rank.

https://www.ksat.com/news/south-texas-boy-scouts-to-open-membership-to-girls-starting-in-january

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