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  1. Just popping in from the UK, though id share this with you, issued via email from the UK Scout Association: Dear all, Many of you will have seen the media reports about the possible removal of the statue of Robert Baden-Powell, the Founder of the global Scout movement, from Poole Quay, in Dorset. The intention, we understand, is to avoid damage to the statue as the important debate continues around the role of historical figures, following Black Lives Matters protests across the world. This is a vital moment to have honest conversations, acknowledge the huge
  2. UK Situation update: All Schools +nursery's (kindergarten) to close effective from Monday 23rd March indefinitely across the whole UK
  3. Message from UK Scout Association: Dear all, I'm writing to share critical pieces of information relating to the developing Coronavirus (COVID-19) situation. This email follows my previous communications with volunteer managers over the past few weeks. Late this afternoon, the Prime Minister has said that everyone in the UK should now avoid non-essential travel and contact with others. Suspension of face-to-face activities
  4. How much does Scouting cost in the USA? i've seen some stories that fees have increased, but by how much? from a UK Scouter's side of things, ( using an online currency conversion) we have an annual Youth member charge of US$50 which goes to District, and then form that to Headquarters ( national) As a Scout troop we charge youth members US$135 a year, split in to three terms at US45 each term and a weekend camp ( Friday evening- Sunday afternoon/early evening) costs roughly US$50 We provide tents for camping in, but not camping equipment ( sleeping bags clothing
  5. As a UK Scouter, care to elaborate?
  6. Whilst UK Scouting was moving towards Co-ed it certainly wasn't a strictly co-ed movement in the UK in the 1990's UK Scouting is organised round the Group principal, that is there are (upto) three Sections under one management system, known as the Scout Group which consists of Beavers, Cub Scouts and Scouts, Explorer Scouts are a District provision, but are often attached to groups as is Scout Network ( 18 - 25) the following is a rough timeline In the late 1960's There was a major re-structure, which ( amongst other things) resulted in the creation of Venture Scouts - replacing Rover S
  7. From the other side of the pond... I'm aware that Scouting in the USA is structured very differently and relies on something called Charter organisations who recruit the leadership team, provide the meeting place, equipment and other resources. And if that CO decides to drop the BSA Scouting program then that's it, no more Scouting. In the UK things are a little different, Things are organised at a Group level where the Scout group is the centre overseen by a committee ( usually consisting of parents of current and former youth members, former youth members and other interested partys a
  8. I've noticed that BSA troops seem to identify as Troop Number BSA, ie Troop 12345 where as in the UK its more along the lines of 1st Somewhere Scouts, belonging to 1st Somewhere Scout Group. The Scout group being its own self financing entity, consisting of Beavers, Cubs and Scouts, often without any sponsor other than its own committee(s) Hence Why 1st Somewhere Scouts will be the first identifier, and then the patrol will be somewhat further down the list Another difference is that of age, in the UK (Scout Association) we have Beavers Age from 6-8, Cubs age from 8-10.5 and Scouts a
  9. There are several different Scouting organisations in the UK, the largest being the Scout Association (WOSM Member) http://scouts.org.uk/home/ and then the smaller Scouting organisations, none of which I have seen ( so far) anywhere Baden Powel Scout Assocaiton (BPSA) https://www.traditionalscouting.co.uk/split away sometime in the late 1960's after a disagreement with a modernisation plan ( advanced party review) The British Boy scouts and British Girl Scouts Assocation http://www.bbsandbgs.org.uk/ split sometime in the early 1900s (1909?) The European Scout Federation http://www.fse-
  10. Thought you may be interested in this: http://scouts.org.uk/news/2016/04/census-2016/
  11. You could try a search for backwoods cooking a few things here http://www.nhscouting.org/openrosters/DocDownload.aspx?id=94626 While ive seen S'more mentioned, ive never tried them, or even seen them ( had to google them )
  12. From a UK perspective, Girl Guiding UK dropped any reference to God from the promise, and while there was a little ( you had to search to find it ) criticism things have pretty much carried on. Scouting through the UK Scout assocaition has also change the promise however this has been done by introducing a new optional variation that replaces " Do my duty to God " to "uphold our Scout values" theres more information on that here http://members.scouts.org.uk/fundamentals/?pageid=2944
  13. The LondonPride event made front page on the UK Scout Association website http://www.scouts.org.uk and a full news item here: http://scouts.org.uk/news/2014/06/scout-pride/ text from above link: Scouts took part in a fantastic London Pride celebration on Saturday. It’s the sixth year that we’ve attended this LGBT event, and the turnout was bigger than ever. We were there to show the thousands of spectators that Scouting is diverse, inclusive and welcoming to people from all walks of life. For the first time, we were joined by young people between the ages of 1
  14. Events such as Pride don't appear to be having an effect on scouting in the UK, in fact it doesn't even generate much media attention, except within Scouting The Below text is copy and pasted from UK Scout Association website here http://scouts.org.uk/events/june-2014/london-pride/: ****************************************************************** Join us for a great day out at Pride in London, whilst promoting that Scouting is truly diverse, inclusive and open to all. When: Saturday 28 June 2014, 10am until 4pm (approx) Where: Central London Cost: Free Pride in London
  15. This has hit the various news outlets on the UK today.... "Traditional values are secret of our success, say Scouts as membership soars Ditching traditional values to be ‘cool’ would be like cringeworthy ‘Dad dancing’, says Scouts chief"" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10802143/Traditional-values-are-secret-of-our-success-say-Scouts-as-membership-soars.html "Girls fuel massive boom for Scouts: Number of children who have joined the movement goes up by 100,000 in ten years" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2618281/Girls-fuel-mas
  16. Hope you have a good holiday over here. a few questions.. Webelos doesn't exist in the UK as a rough guide Beavers are from 6-8 yearrs old, cubs is 8-10 Scouts 10-14, Explorers14-18 how old is your son? When are you planning to come over? a lot of Scout groups dont have regular meetings over the summer holidays ( ie school holidays ) which run roughly from the end of July to the start of September, however a lot of Scout troops will be camping at some point over this period, and you may be able to find a Scout troop with whom you could join in with at camp for a few days.If you w
  17. Heres a radical solution for the Girl Guide Troop:Leave Girl Guiding UK, and Join the Scout Association.While they will have to accept boys As Scouting is a co-educational movement (should they wish to join them) they (soon ) will have the option to drop God, or to keep God should they wish to do so.
  18. From my own point of view ( in the UK) Alcohol is a fact of life, and at one time or other in life Scouts will encounter it. Alcoholic drinks can be enjoyed, but must be treated with respect, and consumed in a responsible manner. If Scouts see adults drinking responsibly then surely this sets a better example then making out that alcohol is a big bad thing or creating some sort of strange myth /taboo with regards to the consumption of alcoholic drinks. In an previous post, IM_Kathy said Personally if that was me, I wouldn't bother with such as sign, as responsible drinking is s
  19. thought I'd share this with your, new video from the UK Scout association - What path will you take? Inspired by the words of Baden-Powell, written by Guy, James, Thom, Chris and Lee.
  20. information here http://members.scouts.org.uk/fundamentals/?pageid=2944 Copy and paste form that page....... Alternative versions of the Scout Promise have been available for nearly 50 years and have been used by Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and those who live in the UK but are not UK citizens. This new additional alternative Promise will now add to the suite of alternative versions to ensure we are inclusive to adults who are humanist or have no affirmed faith who wish to volunteer for Scouting, and young people who are humanist or with no affirmed faith who wish to join Scouting. The
  21. The International sub forum is currently titled as follows: "Scouting Around the World Scouting is a worldwide Movement with nearly 30 million members in 151 countries around the world." Wouldn't that sound better as this?.. "Scouting Around the World Scouting is a growing worldwide movement with over 31 million members from over 215 countries and territories around the world" Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scouts
  22. There are over many different Scout organisations in Germany, many of them belong to an umbrella group/federation and in turn that federation/group which in turn may also belong to another larger group. For those affiliated to WOSM you could try here http://www.pfadfinden-in-deutschland.de/99.html#c180 and look under the WOSM list
  23. Here is a little secret about Scouting in the UK - well its not really a secret - but to say otherwise doesn't sound as impressive. In the UK we all run to the standard rules and regulations for Scouting- known as POR ( Policy Organisation and Rules) Chapter 2 http://members.scouts.org.uk/documents/por/2011updates/Chap_02_2011.pdf contains within it the Equal opportunities policy there a re two slightly differnt versions, one for young people ( ie youth members) and one for Adults the Adult version has this to say on religious belief: Leadership position refers to an Adult me
  24. This was recently shown on the BBC in the UK, as part of the series Rhod Gilberts work experience where the Welsh stand up comedian takes on different jobs/roles, in this episode he takes on the role of Scout leader although it appears to be mostly Cubs ( at the start and on the camp) with only a handful of Scouts. a nice bit of good PR on a mainstream UK TV during 'prime' time running time 30 minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSCWahh435Y
  25. One thing that needs to be taken into account in this is the fact that Girl Guiding UK are / is not Scouting, they are affiliated to WAGGS, Scouting both in the UK ( as in Scout Association ) and the USA ( as in USA BSA) are affiliated to WOSM (World Organisation of the Scout movement) Speaking form a UK point of view both Scouting and Guiding share a lot of common values, and a similar set of shared objectives, but they re separate organisations and what one does shouldnt/doenst have any effect on he other anymore than what any other youth organisation may do. If you read into it a bit furthe
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