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In the UK when the ban was lifted on gays, nothing changed. although we ( in the UK ) don't ( from my point of view anyway ) have any religious organisation that has a major controlling influence over Scouting, as the LDS appears to have with the BSA. As far as im aware, where I operate we don't have any gays, neither adults or young people. Would it cause a problem? that depends on the individual person. If we had a Scout who was openly gay, and he/she decided to make an 'issue' over it to the other Scouts, and leaders then it would be a problem, although I would class it as in

I posted the story, to see what other peoples opinions would be. When you first read it, it comes across as shock horror Scouting founder ilegaly executes captured prisoner of war despite promising him that he would spare him his life, despite the fact that Scouting ( rightly) aims to instill certain morals and standards in young people ( and to a lesser degree adults) to enable those people to become better citizens. The news media loves negative stories, and this is yet another example. Read it through once and its easy to come up with the "shock horror" opinion, however read it thro

This story is curently doing the rounds in the U.K at the moment: "Boy Scout founder Lord Baden-Powell 'executed PoW' " this dates back to 1896, and it basicly says that Baden-Powel ordered the execution of a captured African cheif, despite a promise being made to him that his life would be spared if he surendered. full story here : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/8403956.stm

Bear Grylls is to be the next ( 10th ) Chief Scout in the UK, taking over form Peter Duncan. see: http://www.scouts.org.uk/news_view.php?news_id=185 http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8050000/newsid_8054400/8054415.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/entertainment/newsid_8056000/8056012.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8054699.stm

The "duty to God" bit is, i think a requirement from the World Organisation of the Scout movement, and as far as i know there are only a few Scout organisations that Duty to god is an optional part of the Scout Promise (Oath) one of those countries is Holland, and this is from wikipedia "The Dutch Scout Promise is one of the few in the world where the reference to God is optional. It makes the Netherlands an exception to the WOSM guidelines. The Constitution of WOSM states that the Promise should include a reference to Duty to God [1], but six countries, including the Netherlands w

This is the Scout promise ( oath) in question: On my honour, I promise that I will do my best To do my duty to God and to The Queen, To help other people And to keep the Scout Law. and the Scout Law that goes with the above: A Scout is to be trusted. A Scout is loyal. A Scout is friendly and considerate. A Scout belongs to the world-wide family of Scouts. A Scout has courage in all difficulties. A Scout makes good use of time and is careful of possessions and property. A Scout has self-respect and respect for others. And this from the UK Scout Asso

Did you actualy take part in the main service at the cenotaph in London? Our local parade went quite well, with one of the best turn outs for many a year, with only a handful of Scouts not present, and some of those had other commitments in the parade and church service. On the Saturday there was a practice for those carrying the flag, and their escorts in the local parish church where tey were shown how to carry the falg, dip the flag and so on, the weather outside was dull overcast and damp. On the Sunday we met in the Car park of the Brittish legion before we all assembeld for

11/11 In the UK it is Rememberance Sunday, this usualy falls on the nearest sunday to the 11th of November, which marks the end of the first world war. In London Scouts will be forming an honour gaurd, in front of the Queen, whilst the Prime minister, other representitives from the comonwealth countries, and other officials file past, which Scouts have done siince 1922. See here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/remembrance/history/scouts.shtml As well as in the UK, Scouting survived as an underground movemnet in Nazi ocupied europe, with Scouts and leaders operating under unimag

On the subect of firewoks in the UK, Slough bourough council have banned the bonfire form their main bonfire and fireworks display, because it goes against its environmental concerns. Slough borough council are doing some environmental carbon footprint promotion thing. some other councils have also banned bonfires and fireworks on health and safety grounds and so on, last year a few displays were replaced with a projector showing a film of a fire and a laser display. on the subject of petrol ( gas ) prices the UK prices are now the equivalent of US$8 per gallon unleaded petr

Scouting in the UK has now gone fully Co-ed, and so far there have been no major problems, then sky hasnt fallen in, and in the UK there also exists Girl Guides ( equivalent to Girls Scouts in the USA) Worldwide there also exist some non aligned Scout organisations, ( ie not members of WOSM) that re co-ed such as the Baden Powel Scouts, however before contacting any it would be advisable to make sure that they have the basic safety nets in place, susch as insurance, background checks on adults and so on.

When this happened were the divorcees to be, still together or had the maraige already finished by that stage? To be kicked oout of scouting for something like that, where they caused no disturbance to the camp, and no youth ever found out is a little bit over the top.

If your still interested, these are some of the orgnaised camps taking place in the UK next year ( 2008) Poacher 2008, lincolnshire http://www.poacher.org.uk/ Blair Athol Jamborette, Perthshire, Scotland http://www.jamborette.org.uk/ Campdowne 2008, Kent http://campdowne.org/index.html Essex internationl Jamboreee, Essex http://www.essexscouts.org.uk/jamboree2008/ and theres probably a few more

Reading through these forums, it appears that some city/Local Governments in the US seem to have an Anti Scouting stance. Its all very well going on and on about equal oportunities and non discrimination, but how many of these local governmental authorities operate something called positive discrimination? Fortunatly there hasnt been any ( that i know of) instances like that in the UK, although we do let homosexuals join ( as part of the equal oportunities policy) although "the avowed absence of religious belief is a bar to appointment to a Leadership position" These links may

We also have aGirl Guiding group who have all of thier sections ( Rainbows, Brownies, Guides, Rangers) with who we share the building. Girl Guiding UK are a part of WAGGGS ( world association of Girl Guids and Girl Scouts ) where as we are a part of the UK Scout Association, which in turn is a member of WOSM. ALthough Guiding and Scouting share a simalar purpose, Guiding isnt Scouting, and by( properly) goign co-ed then we are are providing Scouting for all ( with the exception of fully blown atheists - although thats a different topic or more in itself) The only other problemis t

This week our Scout group will be going Co-ed, when the first girls will be joining the Cubs. In the UK girls have been able to join Beavers, Cubs and Scouts since some time around 1991, with the Venture Scouts being Co-ed since sometime during the 1970''s this being at the Groups discretion, or in the case of sponsored Scout groups at the sponsoring bodys and leaders discretion, the only rule being is that once you went co-ed there was no going back. In January of 2007 this changed, now there no choice for Scout groups in the UK, if Girls want to join a particular section, i.e, Beave

The Daily mail is one of those reactionary tabloid papers, when they are not printng something about Diana, they will print stories that are designed to get people going, only when you re-read the story and possible read it from other sources do you realise that its all a fuss over nothing. From what i understand one of the 'news' papers from the 'dialy mail family' printed a story about a Camp site that had alegedly removed a campsite chapel under the headline "Scouts' forest chapel torn down after 70 years because it might offend non-Christians" followed by the usual rantings. readin

Found this nice little news story.. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23409035-details/The+day+the+Cub+Scouts+got+their+drugbuster+badge/article.do from this is london.co.uk ( 20th of August 2007 ) There are many awards available to the keen Cub Scout, including entertainer, naturalist, scientist and even martial arts expert. But unfortunately for one sharp-eyed pack, there is so far no stumbling- on- a- big- stash- of- heroin- and- getting- its- owners- sent- to- jail badge. While hiking in woods, the boys aged from eight to 11 found a coffee jar and plastic

Thnaks for the replies, im fully aware that bad language is less acceptable in the USA compared to the UK, adn thats one reason why i posted thist topic here. In my opinion excessive use of bad language is lazyness, or attenstion seeking or both. We had a good session with the Scouts where we went over what exactly constitues bad, and or inappropiate language, and a few examples of what ( few) circumstances bad language would be acceptable and in what situations. With the attention seekers, the best approach so far has to be semi ignore it, if they say the F word, C word or any

Theres been a recent Tv documentary in the UK on BBC2 about the phelps, called "The most hated family in America" In the documentary, Louis Theroux spent three weeks with the Phelps, one of the most shocking things was how they were invovling their children in their hate fueled protests, and at one point one of the younger kids gets hit by an object thrown at the protesters by a passing car driver. Theres some infomration about it here http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo/noise/?id=louis_theroux and http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6507971.stm As well as the Tv programme apear

Diversity is a big scary word that has many people running a mile, its a big topic that covers a huge area. Ive just completed the Valuing Diversity training module for Scout leaders in the UK, and we loked at how Scouting is a a diverse organisation, on the local scal, national scale and international scale. Most of it was focused round the Equal oprtunities policy of the Scout association which is as follows: "No Member of the Movement is expected to receive less favourable treatment based on age; class; gender; marital status; sexual orientation; mental or physical abilit

The CRB checking process has been on going for quite a few years now, its no great problem. one odd thing about the CRB ( Criminal records beureau) process in the UK is that you need a separate CRB form/clearance for each job you may have ( either voluntary or profesional) that involves working with Young people, or vulnerable adults, as CRB's are not transferable. This means that you can end up with multiple CRB checks and clearance forms, i know of someone who has completed eight CRB forms. THeres some information on it in the link below: http://www.scoutbase.org.uk/hq/records/c

Asa Scout: Setting fire to a plastic plate on the stove, how? A hot pan was placed on top of a placstic plate on a table, the hot pan melted the plastic plate, and the plate stuck to the pan. The pan was then put back onto the stove with the plastic plate stuck to the bottom, no one noticed until black smoke started coming form the shelter area where the stove was, as it was left un-attended. Pasta: whole bag goes into a large billy can, with water, unfortunatly we failed to realise how much pasta expands when its being cooked. As a Venture Scout: On most venture Scout ca

If you want to listen to the whole interview, its available at: http://media.putfile.com/Chief-Scout-interview It deals with the Image of Scouting, leader shortages, child protection, and the relegion question with people caling in and asking questions

How do you deal with bad language? Weve got a few Scouts who often use bad language, and on one trip out, a bike ride, a couple of Scouts stated to use some colourful language past some mored canal boats at a volume that everyone could hear, with such phrases as "fcuking wankers" being banded about. When we got to a clear area, we had a word with the Scouts involved about the aceptable use of words, but the following week the same few Scouts were back to f this, and f that. So we had yet anouther word with them, most of the time its just us ( leaders) saying "watch your language" to

for a map of Dorset go to http://www.streetmap.co.uk and enter this into the box SZ015875 (use copy and paste ) then click on the landranger button, and then search. click on large map, then the plus and minus (+ - ) buttons to zoom out and in. As for contacts, If you go to http://www.scoutbase.org.uk then at the directories bit, click on campsites, you should be able to find most campsites in the UK, for the Brownsea island campsite, click on search by county ( left hand side ) then dorset and you shoudl see links to most campsites in the county of Dorset, including Brownsea island.