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I am reverent of their policies otherwise If not, I would have advised nwasness to sue them up thier ass. I did not instruct her to stay and fight for her beliefs. I told her to move somewhere where she and her son would be welcomed. Somewhere were men and women are treated as equals in the program. These are antiquated beliefs. And women are being treated as inferior. Well maybe not inferior, just seprate, with cooties.. (I am sure that the women have a nice sewing circle that mwasness can join, and they equally exclude the men from joining.)If though the chuch want to have them, and the

I would go to a different troop. There antiquated policies will flare time and time again. Although scouting is for your son, do you really want him to learn that women are inferior by this group being his role model? I am sure your training takes you out of the mother hen role, of following your scout around, and into the role of enjoying the scouting experience, and enjoying being a part of molding these young men just as much as any male scout leader. You are in your right to not cheat yourself out of this expierence. My family moved to 3 troops before we were happy. By the third

BrentAllen - People get those little awards without asking or wanting them. The receiving of them doesn't make you a bad person. The doing things only to get the awards makes you out of sorts with the true purpose. As for what would happen to scouting without the adult awards - Since most scouts don't know about the awards, and don't nominate people. And half the people who go to the overpriced dinners, go because they feel obligated. I think the majority of scouts will remain the same. Those who never got or knew anything about the awards will know nothing different. Those who got awards

Didn't say impossible, just tough.. You have to have alot of skill to do something like that! I love the transyberian orchestra and they rock well with all of that. But, that is true skill.

my mind is reeling over $20 bucks per scout. Our camporees average about $5 or $6 per scout.. Is that including the food at the cafeteria? This year we are having a pricy event. $20 for the day, or $45 for the weekend. For the Blue Angels air show, with all food provided, and a T-shirt.. But we are talking the Blue Angels!!! We did once have a camporee with no fire, but then we didn't have a fire building contest as part of the activities.. and then we could still make our own meals with propane stoves. Also how can you have a fire building competition if you can't transport in

I just hope when they merge the two programs WeLots & IOLS, my council will think about returning to at least a two day program if not a 3 day program. I am told that although not all districts in my council think this is a good thing one district was allowed to do it, and then everyone elses district training ran empty while everyone flocked to the training in the district that they could get trained in one day. The other districts ended up following suit in order to be able to offer the training course at all. Therefore, it might be my suggestion that my district goes bac

OK... Lets all agree to meet up right here in 20 years to compare notes. For sure whatever happens, it will be different then what we have now. And most likely us "oldtimers" (and even if right now you are fairly new to scouting in 20 years you'll be an oldtimer).. will be be-moaning the good old days, while the new timers will either welcome the change (because their mass priorities and values will be driving it), or they will be oblivious to the changes and not care.

While our troop allowed parents to go, they needed to be trained parents, so they knew what to do. they needed to get the essentials done before they could go on any trip. These now can be done on-line in a few hours. When we made the rule, they could get done withing a month or two if not in our district, then a neighboring district. And we let the parents of the crossover pack know months before their children crossed over. Then they had a year to get the outdoor Leader training and SM/ASM specific training done. If not done after a year, they were banned from going until they got it do

Even those of us who state that "someday" the outdoor training will go on-line, know that right now the idea is proposterous. That it is definately something that current National is not contemplating. Still if technology advances, and society makes people cram more into their valuable time, who knows what we will see in 20 years.

Welcome, Although you cannot "do" for your scout, parents involvement is critical to their success. If you pay attention, you figure out how the methods of scouting work, and can help your scout understand them by talking with him outside of the troop meetings. Rather then get upset and protective if the troop is asking him to take on extra responsibilities he is not comfortable with, you can encourage him to try. If he has problems with his patrol leader, or someone else in the troop you can help him understand the correct path to resolve the issue. Best of all if you get involved y

Maybe some people will say their job is just to have fun. Well they should have time for fun. but that is not what I see as their "job". True some fun may teach them things, but not enough. When school age, I guess you can look at that as their "job". To do well in school. But overall, I believe their job is to learn how to get along in society, and to grow up to provide for themself and their family. School does some of this, but parents need to make sure other things happen to make sure they grow to accepting responsability and knowing they are not the center of the universe.

Well, maybe I didn't have the right answer. But, I got the question raised back to the top of the list, where others had the answer for you.. I guess right or wrong, I was good for something.

What do you hold off to award at COH? We try to get them their rank patch as soon as they earn it. Then just give them the card & recognition at a COH. That way they can wear it on their uniforms, and feel they can officially start working toward the next rank. Holding that off somehow signals the boy he is not official, regardless of what you say. But merit badge patches and Camporee patches and the like are held off till the COH. Otherwise, they are being awarded nothing at COH, but blank cards. they don't need to feel that an MB is completed before they can earn the next MB. Our t

Our council had "just" changed due to the change of doing the posting of advancement & meritbadge on line by the troop. our parts state the same as yours do. 1)unit 2) scout 3) counsilor. But, until the change to on-line. the blue cards had to be stapled to the advancement forms, or counsil did not honor it. Didn't seem like they saved it. If we had problems with the counsil not recording something right, they could pull the advancement form from a file cabinet, but the blue cards were history. Our troop now still takes the two parts. The scouts portion is returned to him at the CO

Jhankins - I am unsure how "official" this site is. But this "seems" like official rules. They list the age as 18.. Plus some training they must go through. http://www.pikespeakbsa.org/shootingsports/sop/Cub_Resident_Camp_Shooting_Sports_Range_Operation.pdf

Bacchus - our troop takes both the scouts and the council portions of the blue card. We were in 3 troops, all 3 did it the same way. One part went to council, the other part was returned to the scout with the Merit badge during the COH. It was priceless, the first time my young son had to turn over his first blue card. The first day in the troop they really scared him about if he lost a blue card he would have to repeat the course. Well once he earned the blue card he fought giving it up and trusting someone else with it. They promised if they lost it before it was returned to him, they w

Ok, I did get some of that at a council meeting that outlined it. I have looked at some of the plans, they aren't bad. I know some of the dens did advancement but figured out what they wanted to do based on the leaders skills & intrests for teaching it. In some ways this will make the planning easer for the den leader. In others it will stretch your skills to have to lead something you don't feel comfortable in. Other dens though were working the older plan where all advancement was done at home, and they just did fun stuff. It will be a big change for them. Did they talk mo

OH FOO.. I did not know there was a webinar. I missed it. I am soooooooo... bummed. Is the new delivery program the EDGE, or is it the fact that you now work through a specific guide each week, rather then figure out what you want to do on your own. Or is it something else.

Basementdweller, nothing to appoligize for. You were lashing out at people you see as hurting your boys. The normal Papa bear response. Hurting boys is not just physical or mental. But, you can hurt the boys in our program by not doing your best to make their program the best it can be. Our district isn't top notch and purring pretty. But those who work there work hard. It is just the lack of numbers that allow us to run well. But, sounds like your district have people who will stand in the way of someone trying to give your district boys a good program. That is hurting your b

True, I can see it can not be done inside the system. But it could be done outside once you have pulled the data out to excel or comma delimited or what not. I am either getting my data sent to me in Excel, or there is now talk of getting me ADMS which can read in the info out of myBSA, then I will pull the needed data into Excel or comma delimited. Either way once the data is out of the software, You can match MBC with YPT through their registration # or their name if MBC list will not offer the BSA ID #. The YPT card is fine if you become a registered Boy Scout leader before s

Just seems like different perspectives based on different districts/councils is all this is. Sounds like BrentAllen has a district that does alot due to their district volunteers, and Basementdweller does not. My district is in disarray, but I could still see handing out awards to the hardworkers who try. At least we don't have voleenters that try hard, there is just not enough of them. So rewarding them for putting in the effort when it would be easier to throw in the towel, seems deserving. Basementdweller, your efforts would be so loved by our district. In fact, due to the lack o

Oooh I know the YPT is something my husband does want to start pushing to the MBC's. I know they get a number like any other registered Leader and can take the training. You are right though, they may be in their with a number but, there is nothing that will state they are MBC. They will either be listed as Unit leader or Unit committee, or be listed as a district member. This would be something that will need to be pulled together by matching up your MBC list with a list of those with YPT, in order to figure out what MBC's have not gotten YPT trained.

I think my old district ran the camporees, chuckwagons, and hike-a-thons. We had one guy that was just dynamite with ideas and he seemed always in the center of things. The themes were fantastic, but they were always hosted at the same place. Our current distict has units or the OA run them. Our troop has hosted a Spring Camporee, Klondike and a hike-a-thon over the last 8 years. This is fine people come up with different sites to host it at and different themes. But, it would be nice if at least the council took care of things like ordering the port-a-potties and Water buffalos, check-in

Just for curiosity. How do you plan to use it.. I asked just recently about it myself.. Going into Excel. From Excel I can get my SQL to pull it into SQL tables. Husband is in Advancement for the district. I am in Training. Husband needs a easy way to update merit badge list. Then the other data we want to do all sorts of statistical analysis. And we want to get an easy way to compare the periodic data we get from Council with our records, in order to flag what is new from them, and in order to flag what is new from us and also what is old, but they simply did not key it in correctly.

Well I am not a UC, but I did not take that line the way you obviously did. To my point of view it all depends on the purpose. If it is to get help for the unit to improve them that is not snitching (At least not in my opinion.) Although maybe as UC I would think about first discussing it with key Unit personnel, and offering the services of someone from council.) Then go and seek the help. You want to know that the help would be welcomed. It sounds like in your mind you see the UC going off to tell the council how bad your unit stinks in order for them to snicker about it.. Or figur