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    YPT required one year out to recharter?

    I just want to make sure that I understand... in one post, you mentioned that you flex your YPT muscle and would not hesitate to report someone for violating YPT. But then admit that you have slipped up and violated YPT at least twice. How would it have played out if someone else had seen you and decided to flex their YPT muscle and report you for these violations? I'm not saying that abuse is not real, nor am I trying to minimize it. However, I know that the consequences for a false accusation can be very real & long lasting. And yes, I also understand that the effects of abuse are real and long lasting. I just don't want to be too quick to ruin someone's life and reputation for something that never happened.
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    YPT required one year out to recharter?

    Once that accusation has been made, the accused is generally considered to be guilty and will be treated as such. Whether there is any merit to the accusation or not. It may be determined that there is not enough evidence to warrant any criminal action, but the accused will always be branded as such. I have a close friend who was a high school teacher. A female student made a false accusation about him that cost him his career and almost his family. The student later acknowledged that she made up the whole story. There were no repercussions for her and his life was ruined. Many still feel like he must have done something to cause her to make up the story. Once that accusation has been made, or that report made, the accused is as good as guilty in many cases.
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    YPT required one year out to recharter?

    You're right, it doesn't. National already is making it hard enough to try and keep volunteers engaged. It is frustrating though to see that many Councils make it even harder for the unit volunteers to do the work of Scouting that they so enjoy. We are generally working a full time job & trying to fulfill regular family obligations along with trying to keep up with the ever changing requirements to keep volunteering. I'm also the one trying to keep other leaders up to date on their 2 year renewal for YPT, along with other training updates. Then to throw in running interference between National raising the fees after we've collected dues, it just really gets tiring trying to keep up and still enjoy Scouting. I can't imagine the grief I'd get from adults if I had to tell them that their YPT was only good for a year, even though their certificate says otherwise.
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    YPT required one year out to recharter?

    How is it that BSA can emphasize that neither local Councils, units, leaders nor anyone else can add requirements, take away requirements, nor in any other way modify the requirements that the youth are to meet in order to advance, yet all of these Councils are able to require YPT annually when BSA has established it to be valid for 2 years? Isn't that changing the requirements for our adult leaders beyond what BSA has put in place?
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    Recommendations for off-brand Scout pants

    We've bought these for our sons also. They hold up really well and it is nice that they are convertible like the BSA pants.
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    As Comm. Chair for a Pack & Troop for 11 years, I always did the recharter myself. I have a new CC now who will be doing it this year.
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    BREAKING - Fee Increase Numbers

    Don't forget the $60 Unit Recharter fee to national also. But I can definitely see this coming soon.
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    BREAKING - Fee Increase Numbers

    While $60 a year is not a deal breaker for me, and I'm glad that they at least kept the adult fees where they did, I feel like if they hear too much feedback that this increase is such a bargain, they'll figure they haven't reached the max dollar amount that they can charge. Then I'd worry more for what next year's increase will be.
  9. With all of the District, Council & National emails that I get, I have not gotten one about this. I'm not on FB, or any other traditional social media, so if that's where it's advertised, I won't see it. We had our Troop meeting tonight and nothing was mentioned at all about it.
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    I have not received it, at least not yet.
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    I am just about at that point now. I'm not sure about rechartering myself for next year.
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    In #14, it mentions activities where participants shoot/ throw objects AT each other. In frisbee, baseball, etc, you're not throwing the object AT another player. You are throwing the object TO them. The goal is not to hit them with the object, but rather for them to catch the object. There is a difference in throwing something AT someone instead of TO someone. And yes, according to GTSS & YPT, if you are a registered leader, you'd have to cancel the sleep over if a 2nd registered leader is not present. Then consider the implications if your 8th grade son is in a Troop. Your 3rd grade daughter is in a Pack. Your son wants to have a Scout over for the night, but not as a Scout event. Your wife is not a registered leader. Since your daughter is also in Cub Scouts, you need to have a registered adult female present to spend the night also. Try running that one by your wife so that your son can have a friend over.
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    Need guidance please

    That's good to hear. I was Committee Chair for the Pack for several years. My oldest son crossed over four years before my youngest. I stayed as Pack CC until he crossed over. It took the Troop leaders to realize that I was serious about staying primarily with my youngest until he crossed over. Our meeting nights were the same, so I would go on outings and knew the Scouts pretty well. But many of the parents didn't know me until I finally crossed over.
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    Need guidance please

    Thank you for that update. That's great news that it sounds like you and him have found a Troop home that works for him. I have told many families over the years that each Troop has a distinct personality and many times a particular Troop may not be a good fit for some Scouts. I'm glad you didn't give up on Scouting, but rather found a Troop that he fits into.
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    tracking advancement of patrols and troops

    We continue to use Troopmaster for this. We've tried Scoutbook since it became available for free to all units. However, we just couldn't get past the learning curve to make it work for us. We couldn't even get the Scout's data to open in the system properly. After talking to others who have used it for a while, we realized that it wasn't just us, and it wasn't just a learning curve. Many Scouters around here wish they could go back to Troopmaster, but the new price of Scoutbook (free) has locked it in for many units over the competitors.
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    When beneficiary destroys Eagle Project

    That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing.
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    When beneficiary destroys Eagle Project

    Knowing how much work can go into an Eagle project, I'm sure that this was very discouraging. However, we must keep in mind that the project belongs to the beneficiary. While we always hope that it will provide a long lasting legacy to the Scout who completed it, the needs of the beneficiaries change over time. I have a relative who has a really hard time with this concept as well. This relative will give a gift, but will get quite upset if the recipient does not keep and use the gift. Once that gift is given, it belongs to the recipient/ beneficiary to keep, regift, or otherwise dispose of as they desire. It would have been great if the state had reached out to the Scout first and maybe they could have helped to resolve the issue without destroying it though.
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    Camp info packet

    Every once in a while we may see a Troop or 2 who will build a gateway, but around here it is not the norm. I have seen some pretty cool ones, but they are usually built by the Scoutmasters while the Scouts are in MB sessions. It's not as cool when you realize that they were built by the SM and the Scouts may not have had much input into them. It is much better when the Scouts take it upon themselves to do it.
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    Camp info packet

    I give the Scouts a copy of their MB schedule, that they had picked out & signed up for. We also post the MB schedule, Camp Daily Schedule & a camp map on our Troop bulletin board. I do recommend that they look at their schedule to make sure they know where their MBs are, and if they don't know, that they should ask (SPL) so show them before the classes begin. Other than their MB schedule, we don't directly give them any kind of packet or map.
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    ECOH Complete!

    Congratulations Brian!!
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    Our District had a lady who used to do a lot of embroidery and sewing. She made the ones around here that I knew of, but she isn't doing much sewing anymore. I think she would take old shirt material and make it into a name patch. That way it matched the thread & font of the BSA fabric/ stitching.
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    Congrats on getting trained and getting involved. Many units are having a hard time getting new parents to step up and get involved at any level, let alone get trained and have a uniform, too.
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    The uniform looks great and ready to go. Over the years, I have only seen a small handful with sewn name patches, but they looked sharp. Most around here don't even have a name badge, but the ones that do are pretty much all magnetic backed bars.
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    Who carries a firearm on Scout Outings???

    BSA also has policies in place about the mixing of males & females in Dens, Packs & Troops, but many here have no problem talking about how they work around those policies, often with an under the table "wink, wink" from the DE, SE or other BSA representatives. So BSA policies have become like employee handbooks. Basically, these are the rules. But some of them we let you break, some of them we don't. You won't know which ones are ok to break until we want to enforce them, even if another Council is ok not to enforce them. Then, we may terminate you (revoke your membership), or we may tell you that your doing great by getting more Scouts signed up. When BSA gets lax on enforcing some policies, they lose credibility at enforcing other policies, too.
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    Policy on going through scout totes

    I have one son who just graduated high school and another going into 9th grade. We have had many school (grade level), band & church outings over the years. We have never had the adults open any luggage or pack to inspect for any contraband items. I don't know of any times that there have been unannounced searches without the owner of the bag (at minimum the student) being present. And even in those very limited situations where a bag has been searched, it was a limited scope to include the bags of a very small group. In one case, 4 students were staying together in a room. One student claimed that something was missing. The bags of those 4 students were searched, with the students being present. There was no room to room search of every bag of every student. We have never done this in Scouting either. As a Scoutmaster, I'm not searching bags without a very valid, specific reason. The situation in the OP seems quite troubling to me. As a parent, I would have a problem with adults arbitrarily searching bags like that also. In a Scouting context, there is no 4th amendment issue as BSA is a private organization. However, with the schools, that could come into play as the adults leading the school sanctioned trips would be agents of the state at that point. How do you articulate that you have probable cause to search each bag, of each student, just to make sure there is nothing in there that they aren't supposed to have?