Laurie

Adrianvs -- I can not figure out the spell check and I just knew I spelled that wrong. I wonder what kind of people the "desent" people are that I named

Jumping back into this discussion Guess what arrived today? My husband got his Wood Badge invitation! He didn't tell me had sent an application in, but we agreed that it's better for him to go now as it's harder for me to leave the kids. I'm so excited for him. He was torn about going, not sure if he should go or not, but well I can arm twist rather well, you know. Now I feel just a little jealous because, like I said, I'd love to go. The timing isn't right though. As to money--good point that I overlooked. We don't have it, plain and simple. How we'll do this is yet to be deter

In an ideal world, sure it would be nice to be around desent people. However, Scouters and non-Scouters alike vary. I will admit here that some of the toughest times with other people ended up being the times that taught me the most. I think it comes down to what we each practice, for we cannot control others' actions or words. You said it well: Scouting has taught me values that I live by everyday from the moment I wake up until I go to sleep at night. What you do matters, and it sounds as though you doing just fine Your example may very well catch on too; never underestimate

Gossips (paid gossips at that!) Gazette / gazatteers Givers of news Zahnada, do any of these work?

OGE asks: "ASM1 and Laurie, may we agree that one can be trained, although not be WoodBadge trained? Whether its New Leader Essentials, Scoutmaster Specific, or COmmitee Challenge, etc. you can be trained but not WoodBasge trained and while I agree that WoodBadge training is the most desirable, the other training is adequate to communicate the program to those who will run it?" To which ASM1 replies in part: "It was never my intention to suggest you are untrained because you have not attended Wood Badge. But if you think you are trained without attending Wood Badge you are very mistaken

Twocubdad & Packsaddle: Thanks! You know, we missed an obvious solution--store them in my closet Seriously now (yeah, that was a joke), thanks for the ideas. Twocubdad, looks like I've another expense to have approved. I like that, have seem them, and it would make our flag look nicer. Right now the ribbons just hang at the top of the pole. Packsaddle, maybe in trying to work out a solution for the units I serve, I'll come across something that will help you too. One idea I have is this: scrapbook the ribbons. They'd need to be folded, which I would not be wild about doin

Bob, a belated thank you on telling me how the review process should work from now on. I have it on paper, but hearing it from someone experienced helps make it clearer. Training courses assumed we had been approved prior to filling a role and training for it. Thanks!!

Sorry--I hit post twice.(This message has been edited by Laurie)

ASM1, for someone who claims to be so well trained, I'm puzzled at how you can ask Eamonn this question. It is the role he has been asked to serve in. His qualifications would have been considered by those who appointed him to his current position. Just as he meets with, works with, builds up, and sometimes needs to suggest moving on to leaders, he also has those doing that above him. If he were to think too highly of himself and therefore not do his job well, he'd not have it any longer. You seem to be just insulting Eamonn, but just in case I read that wrong, maybe you want to become a

Packsaddle: do you have a place in the CO where you may keep the ribbons? The pack ribbons are currently on the flag, but I anticipate seeing the number of them increase pretty dramatically this year. However, other than the flag, we may not store or display anything at the CO. Anyone have suggestions for those ribbons that won't all continue to fit on the flag?? Also, the ribbons currently on the flag look to be 10 or more years old (we go back almost 50 years now). They are dusty looking. Is there a recommended way to clean them? And I'm guessing maybe the flag too? If those r

Are you looking for ideas to present at Roundtable? The Cub unit I serve is having an end-of-year family picnic with a Cub-annapolis, campfire graduation ceremony, and lots of outdoor games (with a Plan B of indoor games just in case of rain). Day camp, family one-night overnighter, and family two-night overnighter are planned. Conservation projects are planned: creek clean up, CO grounds clean up, and maybe a project/hike at a local wildlife refuge. Raingutter regatta and kite derby are also on the list, but they're tentative. The Troop I serve is holding all troop meetings outd

Wow, that's super! I haven't seen posts from Outdoor Thinker recently, so please extend my congratulations to her. You sound quite proud of her; what a great support person you must be to her!

I am not untrained, but I have not attended Wood Badge. I will respectfully disagree with you that Wood Badge is not the only way to deliver the program as it's intended to be delivered. This is turning into an argument, and it was not my intent. If you prefer to consider me untrained because I've not yet attended Wood Badge, then you're welcome to your opinion and I'm bowing out of this discussion on that note.

"I have started a Blog about the problems in todays Scouting and how to fix them, or to suggest things to address. First let me say I have no clue what a Blog is, but it seems to be the rage nowadays." You are asking for team members for a Blog, though you don't know what it is? After reading the link, I have one thing to say: It does not take Wood Badge to obtain leaders committed to keeping Scouting a youth program. Though I've nothing against Wood Badge and hope to one day take part in it, I am one of many leaders who care deeply about carrying the program out as it's intended t

ASM1, I am fully aware of that, and I even said it's not mine. I'm not sure what other thread you are referring to. My point, since it was missed, is that I just love working with the unit and am thrilled that we earned this ribbon as it took hard work to accomplish and feels just plain good. Eamonn, it is far too late for me as I am a packrat, and I am the daughter of a packrat who married a cleaning queen. Seems I got only the packrat gene! I can clean just fine, but my husband laughs when I start on closets because I usually disappear for hours...only to be found going through the

EagleInKY: I have no less respect for you now than prior to this exchange, and I would hope that others would read what each person has to say and then judge (hate that word in this context) accordingly. I am right now on the receiving end of false accusations, and it is quite possible they will hurt my reputation. However, I know I have not done what I was accused of, and when I contacted the person named in this mess face to face, this person had no clue what I was speaking of and offered to help me out where possible. What it boils down to is this: my reputation really can only be tarn

Thanks for confirming that Twocubdad What a great idea you've shared. We haven't received ribbons for anything for awhile, so this is new to the current leadership. We've a huge bunch on the flag already. The boys putting the ribbon on--I love that. Thank you!

I was presented with the 2004 Quality Unit ribbon yesterday during an emergency meeting out at council, and it is sitting here by my computer (aka Scout Central ), and I'm not so sure I want to give it up. Oh, I know, it's not mine--I have the patch for my uniform, the pin for my civilian clothing--but I like the ribbon too. The FOS ribbon is still here too. Good thing they didn't send the popcorn ribbon my way, although, like the popcorn itself, I might have tried to get rid of this one! Anyway, just curious: anyone else ever feel the desire to hang onto a unit award? Or am I truly nut

Oh no, Ed, you mentioned that name! I have to disagree with you on him having some good posts. He had posts that might have been good, but his attacks on others, on the BSA in general, combined with his refusal to consider any other opinion just tarnished everything he posted. That is the problem with continual nastiness or stubbornness: when one just wants to attack a person rather than an opinion, it devalues the posts IMO. When one is refusing to show that he is listening to other opinions/ideas, that also devalues future comments from that person. Around this campfire, like others, di

For the longest time, in spite of asking, we had no clue in one unit that help was available. District, council--they seemed so far off and unknown--pretty much a separate entity rather than something we were part of. The DE and our former UC actually admitted to me that since the unit had "continued to continue on", it didn't need any help. I asked what about 75% of the pack youth being lost? Not a concern? No, it didn't get attention. I asked what about leaders who were frustrated, tired, untrained, and ready to leave? As in most leaders? No, it didn't get attention. I asked what ab

We have not recruited at any time but in the fall. Our pack is gaining a good reputation, the DE would like to promote it, and recruiting is beginning. I received a call today that alerted me to an area that is new and unfamiliar to us: the cost of the program when not registering during roundup. Giving the BSA membership fee was easy; I have the chart with pro-rated costs. However, how do you handle prices for those who come into a unit late in the year? We are pretty much wrapping up most of the advancements, getting ready for summer activities and the beginning of new ranks, but we

How did the leaders meeting go? If you cannot get support from the CM, who should be thrilled that the boys are earning their badge of rank (and I speak as a CM), then please seek committee or unit commissioner or district executive assistance. There is no reason to deny a boy his badge if he worked on and completed the requirements. We register boys in September, usually don't settle into den meetings until early October, and by February most boys have earned their badges of rank. Six months is often doable, though there is no need to hurry to get done in that time frame, and there is

Also in the article: "The Scouts have leased the aquatics center land since November 1987 at no charge. They have spent $2 million to build the center. The city requires them to pay the cost of operation and maintenance. The lease expires in 2012." They may have leased it at no cost, but they sure put plenty of money into building the center, and then they maintained it. They also, in looking up more info on this center, did not use if for the BSA alone: "San Diego Youth Aquatic Center The San Diego Youth Aquatic Center officially opened its doors in 1992 to all youth orga

Accounting practices relative to Scouting (think of the scouting account conversation here as well as the many questions and issues that come up over the funds just on these forums.) First aid. I took this when council added it to Pow Wow. It was a full course, very much in demand, and it covered the basics--would LOVE to have more of this one. Leadership survival was the name of a course I took, but it dealt with recruiting--I was hoping for some tips on managing time, dealing with conflicts, and things of this nature from more experienced leaders. I like what you have so far

I'm really sorry to hear this happened. Regardless of circumstances, it is a sad situation. I know of a unit that recently did something similar, but it bypassed the person being removed--no private conversation was held with that person to my knowledge. That seems wrong IMO, and I said so, and I fought what was coming. Were the concerns valid? Yes, they were, though I don't know that any of the suspicions were ever validated; it is the method that bothered me. I sincerely hope this move that has been made was worthwhile for the unit you serve. By the way, don't be surprised if this lea