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Okay, my head is dripping from the cold water. I feel that i should expound upon my point about competition, as my original post does not convey in specific details what I am trying to get across. I posted the following 4. To present the ideal of scouting competition (No its not about winning, its about personal competition to better oneself) I do not mean ideal competition, but an ideal of what competition should or more importantly not be. I am not trying to add to the program, nor make a new competition, etc. but if substituting the words "a scout progresses on his own" for perso

Bob white I don't like the fact that you get so prickly in responding to folks and that the use of Bold type instead of caps still comes across as shouting. If you had stopped and read my comments on a COURSE FOR SCOUTS WHO'VE BEEN AROUND AWHILE you would note that all the things you pointed out are, for the most part, the things I would RECOVER in an experience scout training course. Yeah, in a perfect scouting world, scouters who have been around awhile would regularly retake the traing, in reality they don't. The closest they get to it is teaching the training. MY POINT WAS that it would

I think you may be off phrase with non-religious, rather non-denominational. For my woodbadge, we covered prayers and poems from many different sources.We also covered the spirituality of the scout oath and law. We used the boyscout oath and law in ours, but the cub scout or venture also works. I would point you in the direction of using things that are spiritual in nature, things that inspire you, things that reveal the beauty and wonder of the world and the awe it inspires. I would suggest that you incorporate songs. "Amen" is a good one. Patriotic Songs are also fitting. Don't mistake n

Currently working towards being the ruler of the world ...to support that endeavor I own part of a graphics/communication company that designs for print production, web, etc. (Anything you can get an image on.) ...so I might be a jack of all trades having read or retyped many of the professions literature here into "salesworthy" graphic publications such as advertising, marketing plans, public relations and such. Specialized in Pharmaceutical Dissemination of Information (which comes close but not quite as big as the BSA in publishing information...wish I had that account!)

My condolences I would suggest contacting the school and church(s) of your area for grief conselours. I would further suggest that the conseling include your adults too. G-d Bless You, may G-d's love smooth the pain you all must be experiencing.

BW No, I love the program. I just like tossing out subjects to get peoples take on them. Some of the subjects, I may not agree with, but toss out their and play devil's advocate. Why? Well if a subject warrants, I bring it back to my RT and throw it out there. I kinda use this a testing site because there are so many knowledgable scouters on this forum and who have such a range of experience and thoughts and their response enable me to think or rethink my positions. I would like to thank many respondents who truly show me the error or my ways and I have thanked them, including you, when I am

Okay, very valid point on tenure and if the purpose of woodbadge is to present the broad spectrum of scouting to non scouters, then it should not be sold as the Premier scout training session That said, one problem I have as a middle age scouter (been around, but not as long as a lot of people ;-} is that most training is geared towards newbies ('cept powederhorn training, which I personally believe you should know something about working with kids as well as the skills presented) and that it would better serve the "experienced" scouters, especially the 1 year repeated over and overs, to h

Oh grasshopper, welcome to the master's house What's missing....fun RT - not just an announcement fest. Mine is complete with: Songs, a game, a ceremony or two (Opening, Adv.) a purpose...my purpose is that every attendee leaves the RT with something that they can use to make their program better. how do I accomplish that...I don't, I'm not that smart, so I use the group...in a round table discussion. Sometimes I introduce the topic, other times it is brought up by a scouter. Programs areas covered in a year: B&G, new den leader, new CM, Webs to Scout, recruitment ideas, Pa

I think I might have read somewhere in the voluminous library of scouting literature something about "praise in public, reprimand in private" Is it not the case, that these adults where reprimanding your son in public? Oh, they where just kidding around....how would their sons feel about such kidding around? Or they themselves.

if the boys recite this every week, how come there are so many times that they are not allowed to be clean? What do i mean How about summer camp, dress uniform for dinner. Nice idea, but the last three years at camp (at two different places) it was a week of 100+ degrees during the day and 85-90 degrees at night and uniforms and scouts stink! and the boys, after taking showers daily, do not want to wear their smelly uniforms. The spl (w/ ASM or SM) talk to dining hall only to be told that no uniform, no meal (which goes againsthow manyrules in G2SS) Of on a weekend campout, wearing the s

kcw57 here is ashort version of a long training session You will spend the bulk of the course, sitting on your rearend watching ppt and flip chart presentation. One would hope that the presenters can make the material palatiple and engaging. The course is based on the one minute manager. Most of the examples of leadership/management (never really go into planning and stuff...and it should) will be punctuated with film clips from Hollywood (I would think a scouting scenerio woul work better) twice a day you will be involved in patrol activities that are similar to icebreakers and the sta

Bob White the resources that I was asking/looking for where: the sources upon which the modules where based. Additional material that may be helpful. I was told by my conselour that the staff had access to this stuff, but attendees where not allowed to have it. Big Secret As to be invited to Woodbadge... don't worry, it is a take all comers proposition, with no tenure requirements, except NLE. We had a fellow (Tiger leader) who had just joined (Scouter for 2 months) who only took NLE and signed up for woodbadge so that he wouldn't have to ever take any other training. I do believe t

i agree that a course is only as good as the training staff or the trainees can make it. the course i took, had the "best of the best" of my council. the attendees (48) where for th most part, people I have met and/or known in my tenure as a scouter...that said the problems with the course, in my opinion start with the staff, from the SM and advisior and flowed downhill from there. things got off track from the get go. There is a module in the course that covers being a new scout lasted the whole 1st weekend . there where numerous mentions of "there is no adult protection... Hazing is not alou

Our course cost $195 and was not worth one cent of the fee. the course i took would demonstrate why cub scouters stay away, I am just surprised anyone would take it. I found it trite and hackneyed. If you are having it at your council's dining hall, the least you could do is find comfortable seating. Nothing like sitting on hard benches for three days straight, benches without backs. Better yet, buy a book, you'd get more out of it than the new woodbadge course The course is supposed to be about leadership but I found that it really is just "leader sheep"

Boy this thread seems to only add to the "urban myth" with insurance and such...being from jersey, It doesn't matter what's covered, who's covered, etc, because jersey seems to be the lawyer capital of the world. Throw a rock and hit lawyer and at times it seems that all the lawyers need to sue...so that is why I carry an extra rider on my homeowners policy for scouting, make sure that there are always three when dealing with YP, etc. It is this inane environment that breeds urban myths, and yes, dumbs down program in the name of "safety" or CYA I don't want to be liable for anything. As

Here's a couple more urban legends. No Sheath Knifes - GSS says so, actuallyit says that sheath knives are discouraged. There is a length requirement on knives - again, no such animal You must have a whittlin chip (cubs) or a totin chit (boyscouts) to carry a knife - No you don't need either to carry a knife in scouts and both are not "advancement" of rank. An eagle project must have at least 100 hours of combined service - there is no minimum of time on an eagle project You must complete all required merit badges before starting an eagle project - No you don't An eagle candidate

Funny story I wonder how we could use these methods to increase FOS?

I have pretty much finished up my presentation for an upcoming commissioner's college on "Ideas for involving Youth at Round Table". It might seem a silly idea to have youth involved at RT, after all Scouting is a serious business, best left to old time scouters and professionals... wait you say...it should be boy run program???? Well, here's your invite to come enlighten me. ;-} Seriously though, your thoughts are welcome, as I believe this is an opportunity to put our mission into action, Fun with a purpose and Boy Lead! Tx j

Let the APL do the job and get a win/win situation. There already is a sharp, go getter PL and now the APL will get the experience of PL as well. In 2 or 3 months, a great team with great leadership. Keep an eye and ear out for any grumblings of "favoritism", ya never know. And make sure every member of the patrol has a job to keep them all focuses. Good Luck and I'll pray the parents let him come back. A side note: 12 - 13 is such a hard time in a boys life, and speaking from experience (which comes from judgement, most of it bad) the ole "hard discipline" for the most part is just a wa

Yes, you have to stop showing up. When I stepped down, I thought about sticking around to "help out" but realized that every one is different and it would not be fair to the new CM. We are different, both good. And by not being there physically (only a phone call away) he puts his imprint on the program. " ... it's not the signs of the hard economic time. I think that dsteele was right. The parents are taking advantage of the changing of the leadership and decided to take a break! " I'm not sure...our pack went from 75 boys to 50 in one year. I think there may be financial reasons, nationa

Are you talking about just boy scout leaders and/or cub scout leaders. I am a RT commish. I would caution turning a RT meeting into a night of "training" unless....your training is disguised as a fun type of activity or an interesting topic. Piggybacking, in my opinion, does not work, i would suggest having a module (time slot) in the RT agenda to cover a scout skill. That said, it sounds to me that a full blown training session(s) are required. Your leaders will get so much more out of RT if they have gone through New Leader Essentials and job specific training. Round Table then truly doe

Dinosaur patrol - big bodies, little brains Lighthouse patrol - the guiding light in the darkness Rocking chair patrol - a place to go and do something when you want to interfere I personally think we should come up with a BSA Police patch, met too many folks who have forgotten about fun and what scouting is about, only hung up on their interpretations of the rules (most times that interpretation is wrong)

Dinosaur patrol - big bodies, little brains Lighthouse patrol - the guiding light in the darkness Rocking chair patrol - a place to go and do something when you want to interfere I personally think we should come up with a BSA Police patch, met too many folks who have forgotten about fun and what scouting is about, only hung up on their interpretations of the rules (most times that interpretation is wrong)

A couple of thoughts on postings. One, Den Chief training to late in Nov., our council does it in Jan/Feb. it should be held in Sept and IMHO, with some of the youth staff from council JLTC. Two, Ages and confidence, i strongly believe that the den chief be fully three grades removed from the boys he is to be den chief with. three big Brother Den Chief, conventient for all, but many times not effective, as one brother will lose out. Three, There should be a re-emphasis on this job, on the unit, district and council level, Hopefully "Scouting Mag" is paying attention here. I like the on

Can anyone help me find plans to build a compressed air water-bottle rocket launcher, the type used to launch 2 liter bottles that are half filled with water? I need this for an upcoming camporee. Tx J