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Stosh

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  1. By setting up an independent program for the gals, it would seem that he wasn't all that excited about co-ed, not even on the scouter level.
  2. I may be the last scout to stop a runaway horse. I was at a CW reenactment at Chickamagua in Georgia and one of the troopers was thrown when he got too close to the artillery. The horse bolted and took off across the field. Another trooper tried to catch the runaway but the riderless horse could outrun the mounted horse. I was standing in artillery reserves and I had read the part about runaway horses in the early Scout Handbook, and dang, it really worked!
  3. Wearing vintage uniforms is okay, but mixing eras is frowned upon. That's why I wear my community strip on my green shirt and not on any tan. I wear the collar brass from the 1910 uniform on my Jac-shirt and not on any current uniforms. If one is going to wear a modern uniform, wear it correctly, if one is going to wear a vintage uniform, wear it correctly.
  4. My scouts have maintained the Scatter Garden at the local cemetery for a while. They also help at the CO's annual church fundraiser dinner (including paying for their own meal). They help with the CO's neighborhood summer festival. They ring bells for the Salvation Army. They help serve at the weekly free meals once or twice a year.
  5. Yep, not anymore. It might be an interesting read to peruse some of the old Boy Scout Handbooks. It might give one a better understanding of what's been lost over the years.
  6. It lies in the "fuzzy logic" of what's best for me on the one hand and what can I get away with" on the other. Morality and one's adherence to it (morality). Basically all moral codes/convanents/agreements are valid as long as everyone agrees to it. If not (disobedience) the whole thing begins to fall apart. Of course there is then the caveat that once the code is broken (obedience isn't followed) then the next step is broken trust (A Scout is Trustworthy). The dominoes thus begin to tip one after another until there is anarchy. The "fuzzy logic" comes into play, when one tries to determ
  7. But there is vagueness and latitude in the system. Thus the evaluation and re-evaluation going up the ladder to the Supreme Court. So Armed Robbery will get you 10-15 years. So what is it 10 or 15 or somewhere in between? Then there's "beyond a reasonable doubt". Getting to a yes or no is kinda hard with the term "reasonable" thrown in.
  8. When I was at the Irving Museum, I was surprised that they knew NOTHING ABOUT the early literature of the BSA, the Every Boy's Library and Percy Reese Fitzhugh's series on scout life in the early years. (Pee Wee Harris was one of these original book series. I guess they just focus on what they think is important and re-write the rest. (like the did with GBB legacy)
  9. My historical 1960's uniform has all the correct bling. I have moved from one town to another in a troop change, so I just changed out the community strip. One can always try to get the old ones off of Ebay. That's where I got mine as did my former SPL who worked on a historical uniform as well. I get a lot of comments from the SM patch from 1960's, not many people have ever seen one. Over many washings, the 1993 council patch I have is well worn, really well worn. Am I going to replace it anytime soon? Nope, no one looks at it anyway.
  10. What works for the program isn't always what works for the consumer. If a single mom is interested in a male role model for her son, having a female leader doesn't meet her needs. Instead of tweaking the program, define it and then let the consumer decide if it's what they want. If the consumer doesn't what what is offered, it's not the fault of the consumer.
  11. One cannot legislate morality, though many have tried. There are many things that are legal that are morally bad and vice-versa. It just depends on the morality of the one's making the laws. Laws only codify away the freedom of choices. The big one in today's society is: Can I buy a gun to defend myself and my family. One has a moral obligation and responsibility to do that, but the laws in some places restrict or deny that. It all boils down to how one person uses laws to either enforce power or to help. At that point it becomes not a legal issue, but a moral issue. Drinking and dr
  12. I loved the old community strips, they were great conversation starters and a great way to make friendships. Most council patches are so "busy" that they are hard to read to know even the name of the council. From 5' away all one knows is that it's different than the one one is wearing. It could even be the same council, but it's hard to tell. I wear the one that was issued when I bought the uniforms, my oldest shirt has a patch from 1993.
  13. Doesn't sound like anyone other than National Executive Board members voted on this. Musta meant Councils, CO's, and membership wasn't considered part of the process. Kinda the way it was this time and with the homosexual issue. Pretty hard to change the spots on a zebra.
  14. And of course there's yet one more option. The CO's provide $20 and a place for scouts to meet. Period. They don't have a genuine interest in the program but provide free meeting space as a community service opportunity. My Venturing Crew CO did neither.
  15. I didn't receive any feedback from my CO's over the years. Their hands-off stance keeps communication at an absolute minimum. It usually boils down to "Are you going to pay the $20 part of the rechartering this year?"
  16. One other caveat I forgot to mention. If a boy has his ISA account from the Pack transfer into the Troop, all the money goes into the Troop fund. If the Commiittee decides it would be appropriate for that money to be used for the NSP the boy is in, they might, but are not required to, take some of that money and "seed" the new patrol's account. If the boy wishes to join a regular patrol with an older brother, the money does not go into the regular patrol's account. If some parent doesn't like the system, they can find another troop. Eventually all the money goes to support in some way
  17. Our council has yet to announce any membership changes. 1) they don't know about them or 2) they are intentionally not saying anything. If they are supposed to be the connection between National and the membership in this area, there seems to be a disconnect somewhere. My scouting is not just local, it is totally isolated. One would think the FOS $$'s spent would be used at least in letting everyone know what's going on....officially. The only way I'd know about any of this is this forum and national news, and we all know how reliable either of those two entities are.
  18. My "bias" never enters the situation. Previously I would get a request to come hold elections in the troop. I promptly pass that request off to all of the PL's. It is up to them to set a date for the election. The last time a troop I was in as SM had an election, we had 4 patrols so I passed the information to the PL's and they had the SPL invite an OA rep in to do the election. The OA rep showed up in blue jeans and school sweatshirt. The SPL rescheduled the election at a time when the OA rep could show up in a Scout uniform. The OA rep never came back. At the present, I have o
  19. The adults are responsible for fundraising. The boys, if they wish, participate. If they participate, they get a percentage of the profits. The troop gets 75% for example and the patrols 25%. If one of 2 patrol as a whole participates, they get 12.5% in their account, otherwise it is prorated. If only 4 of 8 boys in the second patrol participate, they get 6.25%. The other 6.25% goes to the other patrol. It's rather remarkable how both patrols both want to participate at 100% of the boys helping out. The Committee Treasurer lets the patrol Scribe know how much is in the patrol acco
  20. Personal bank accounts for scouts with regular savings was at one time one of the TF->FC requirements. Now that moms and dads are handing out free money that their kids feel they are entitled to, there isn't much need for that requirement. I train "Thrifty" through my Patrol Accounts. The boys as a group decide what they need to run their patrol and then figure out how to get it. If the boys are happy with personal tents, good. If the boys want to get patrol tents and want to spend their money on that, good. I'm not part of the process, I don't get caught holding the bag. I have
  21. Well, from reading the OP a couple of times it doesn't sound like just a public speaking issue. The question is talking on a leadership role which appears to be a daunting task at first. Getting up in front of strangers is bad enough, but being in a leadership role has that many more options to stumble over. Hanging out with a den of young boys is not the same as stepping up to CM. I was extremely shy in high school and yet went on to professional ministry. That 8 year struggle was difficult. A couple of professors along the way helped make getting through a lot easier. The first one
  22. Scout Shop emails were the first to make it to the spam filter. That was about 2 years ago. National emails were next, about a year ago. Council is on the verge right now, wouldn't take much.
  23. The McDonald's on the north side of town doesn't look anything like the south side McDonald's. The one in the town nearby is different too. But, if it's a meal of fries, Coke and a burger, I can go to any of them and get the same meal. If National were all that concerned about it's "program" then they had better do something about providing a consistent option. Sure there are these big scary rules and regulations coming down from National that everyone basically ignores and so so to the point that one can go to one scout unit and get one program and go to another and get something c
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